Most overrated quitarist of all time

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Originally posted by Analogue:
Here's my twopenneth
In the 60s/70s Hank B Marvin was considered a great guitarist
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Regards
Chris N

Good point. That's because HM was - and I believe still is. He also played on some great songs.

Sorry to say though I don't like MK at all - but I think it's the songs rather than his guitar technique I find drab. Apologies to those who like DS.

Rotf

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Originally posted by the arctic monkey:
Jesus Christ it's like punk rock never happened. How well or badly some guy plays the guitar ain't important peeps. A good tune and good sound are all that matters in a band. Image, attitude and technical profficiency on their instruments are afterthoughts in my opinion.

In some respects I agree - I feel recognition for image and attitude is negative. It is certainly true that technical profficiency is no substitute for a good song. However, a good musician playing a great original or traditional song does have something going for it.

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Originally posted by ROTF:
Apologies to those who like DS.

Think I admire MK rather more than DS.

EW

Dave Gilmore

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Originally posted by Fisbey:
Dave Gilmore

No, I can't get excited about Gilmore. He's a serviceable axeman I suppose.

EW

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

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Originally posted by kuma:
Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Think you might struggle to justify that one!

No, I won't.
He's techincally superb,but soul-less and lacking in originality.

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Originally posted by kuma:
He's techincally superb,but soul-less and lacking in originality.

Bit like Steve van Satriani?

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Originally posted by ROTF:
Charles

Who would you rate as a great guitarist that I should definitely listen to - I do tend to like songs rather than long instrumentals; although there are exceptions like The Marilyn Monroe-Memorial-Church by Amon Duul II featuring Chris Karrer and John Weinzierl.

Rotf

I think my recommendations would be stuff you already have, but here goes. Jimi Hendrix blues and rock, Steve Howe, Tim Reynolds, BB King, Buddy Guy, Steve Cropper, and Ry Cooder.

Regards,
Charles

I'll receive brickbats for pointing out the obvious: there's no correct universal answer to this (or any other subjective) question. Having rejoindered thusly, I'll observe that I've (kind of) gone from enjoying flash guitarists (Steve Howe, Robert Fripp, Alan Holdsworth etc.) to being appreciative of those who serve only the song, and for whom solos are almost irrelevant (Jeff Lynne, George Harrison, Justin Hayward). For me, however, Jeff Beck remains in a class all his own; Zen-like mastery, as a top "hero"-type guitarist; tons of soul & invention. And, unlike some recent shredders, never a wasted note. He earns extra points with me for not caring much about gear (hand him any guitar & amp, and he sounds exactly the same); he saves that for his hot-rod building!

Q: How many guitarists does it take to imitate Stevie Ray Vaughn?
A: All of them, apparently.

...And let's tip the hat to Dave Davies, Peter Green, Richard Thompson and (esp.) Hank B. Marvin; as an electric guitarist, I couldn't exist without them.

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Oh! I don't know. A bit of technical address helps a lot, in my view, though it should nevetr be the aim as such, just a tool. We expect any craftmen to used appropriately maintained tools. The musician's tools include his instruemnt and his technique. Only after at least an adequate technique has been mastered is any expression be possible ( quotation from Rachmaninov), so while I beleieve a technician can be musically suspect, if there is absolutely no technique, by definition, there can be no music either

Maybe, but some of the greatest rock and roll moments have involved the technicians showing absolute distain for their tools isn't it? - Hendrix, Townsend and so on.

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Originally posted by bhazen:
Richard Thompson

Richard Thompson can be quite good.

I don't think MK sings very well either, but it does highlite his playing.
I think its for this reason MK and DS were/are so popular.
Regards
Chris N

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

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Originally posted by kuma:
He's techincally superb,but soul-less and lacking in originality.

Bit like Steve van Satriani?

yeah.
They are both dead,too.

He's techincally superb,but soul-less and lacking in originality.[/QUOTE]

As a long time fan, and as someone who has seen Mr. Vaughan live, I take great offense to that statement.

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Originally posted by jake stead:
As a long time fan, and as someone who has seen Mr. Vaughan live, I take great offense to that statement, but then, I remembered who wrote the reply, and it only supports my initial opinion of you. You are a very sad human!

Jake.
Why am I NOT suprised you like his soul-less noodling and copying.
I've seen him live, too, fronting Jeff Beck.
We could not wait for him to get the f**k off the stage.

I realise the music preference is a subjective matter and heated but someone useless debate is expected.

But let's not turn the discussion into a personal insult which you prefer to do.

An intolerance is a bad thing.

Has anyone mentioned Lindsay Buckingham?
Chris N

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Originally posted by Analogue:
Has anyone mentioned Lindsay Buckingham?

He isn't highly rated is he?

EW

I have to go with the DIRE straites lot. So little talent, so many plays.

Jono

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Originally posted by Jono 13:
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I also support Nick Drake's position in a listing like this. You only have to really listen to realise just how good, and different he was. For Joe Boyd to say that he would not change a single thing about Nick's albums is an indication of just how good he was.

Jono

I certainly agree Nick Drake is an underrated guitarist and I agree with Joe Boyd too.

Never really listened to The Smiths - so shamefully, I don't know what Johnny Marr sounds like. I know he is highly rated.

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Originally posted by Jono 13:
I have to go with the DIRE straites lot. So little talent, so many plays.

Yeah, well, there are people on this forum who openly admit to liking Queen and Status fucking Quo...

I rest my case.

EW

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

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Originally posted by Jono 13:
I have to go with the DIRE straites lot. So little talent, so many plays.

Yeah, well, there are people on this forum who openly admit to liking Queen and Status fucking Quo...

I rest my case.

EW

I never ever said I liked Queen.

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Originally posted by ROTF:
I never ever said I liked Queen.

That's a relief!

EW

Sorry anybody wondering about my Johnny Marr and Nick Drake references. I started to sing their praises and then realised that I was off on a bit of tangerine so I edited the post.

Don't get me started on the truely hideous guff produced by Queen.................

Jono

Talking of which, surely Brian May must be "The Most Overrated Guitarist Of All Time". Only up in the public ratings because of Elton John type tabloid fame - yeah, I'm convinced. He is The One.
Can we all agree on that then?

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Originally posted by Rasher:
Can we all agree on that then?

Well if he's rated at all then yes I agree he's overrated... if you see what I mean?

EW