just bought 1st naim sistem

First of all congratulations on your purchase...

Beware the burn in period, it does exist and it can sound horrible at times.

I think Naim connections are best left loose (I could be wrong, I often am)

If the FC2 isn't connected properly I guess that the sistem would not work

Speakers are a matter of personal taste, the only thing that matters is that you like the speakers in your sistem.

CD5's only come with one puck. The best way to ensure that it is properly centred seems to be to drop it onto the CD from a small height and let the magnets sort it out. My 3 year old happily plays CDs, we've only had one 'puck event' so far, you have to fish it out again, search the site for 'lost puck' or similar phrases.

I've read all about the burn-in, and am prepared for it :-)

I dunno about the FC2 actually - in one demo the dealer plugged it in and unplugged it when everything was powered on (seemed a strange thing to do to me)

When you say one "puck event" how exactly did you get it out as presumably it goes right into the guts of the machine...did you have to take the player apart?

Dealer left me to do it...according to the manuals it should be installed by naim, but I'm not one to make a fuss. I didn't ask him too, to be fair to him.

Maybe naim should put an emergency puck removal procedure in the manual? :-)

Just a couple more questions:
- can I register the kit on the web or do I have to post the cards?
- how do I got about getting an extra puck if I - or my wife - somehow manage to lose it?

Congrats

I'm also the proud new owner of the same system, but with Ruark Prelude 2's on the end. I listened to CDM 1NT's and also liked them, but personally prefered the Ruarks.

I installed the system myself, but only because I was too impatient to wait for the dealer to come round

There is a connections guide available (as a .pdf) on the Naim website in products; manuals if you want to double check you've done it correctly. I found the connections a little stiff to push in enough to lock, but once locked everything is fine.

Kit can be registered on the website (did it myself yesterday) in Contacts; Register new purchase

I believe there is a thriving market in extra pucks from Naim or your dealer

Seth
Is Naim the only way forward?
Ahh, Ahh! I'm burning!!

Andrew

First of congratulations on buying your new kit. As previously stated...warm up is a fact of life and some days your system will sound poor, but after say 3 weeks it will all settle down.

Another point, it is normally easy to retrieve a puck of of a CD player case by just unscrewing the feet and sliding the cradle out. However with the CD5, you need a dealer to pre set something when you reassemble it. Evidently you cannot just put it back together like you can with the other models.

I have only dropped a puck in once, many years ago and the best advice is store the puck out of the CD player when not in use.

Regards

Mick

with no CD in the player do you store the puck inside or outside?

My CD5 has one puck lost inside; I just bought two new ones (one to spare). Tom's idea to hold the CD5 upside down is not a good one vis a vis the suspension inside. That's what you have the transport bolts for.

I store the puck outside overnight.

I have to say it's a little funny you do a serious purchase like you did, and the dealer doesn't deliver and install. This is supposed to be standard service, rather than something the customer has to ask for.

Enjoy

Herman

Alex

My CD3.5 is 1997 and still uses the original puck. It has been stored out of the player and is still going strong.

Regards

Mick

I store my puck on a big blob of blu-tack (thus cleaning it every time I put it down - adds to the ritual) hidden behind my headphone amp. I keep the spare puck in a little airtight bag,

Another superb example of the (NON) service provided by parts of the Naim dealer network.

After all good setup plays a significant part and you should not have to ask for it (Unless you got a significant discount)

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Originally posted by Bosh:
Another superb example of the (NON) service provided by parts of the Naim dealer network.

After all good setup plays a significant part and you should not have to ask for it (Unless you got a significant discount)

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Well, I did get the FC2 thrown in free, which was nice :-)
To be fair, the dealer - with the exception of not installing the kit - was good and knowledgable. I could have maybe done with a bit more explanation of the connectivity but he did tell me I could call him for support. The dealer was also about 1 hour away from where I live so I wouldn't like to slag him off.

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Originally posted by Tom Alves:
As a matter of interest, who did you buy from?

Tom

at activesbl . plus . com

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Billy Vee. I thought he was good and didn't realise that installation should be done by the dealer until I read the manuals.

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Originally posted by Tom Alves:
Surprising, they have a good reputation.

Definitely get them to check the kit out. It'll give you a good opportunity to talk to them & create a rapport.

Tom

at activesbl . plus . com

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Tom,

I was very happy with Billy Vee and I don't want to harm his repuatation in any way...very good product knowledge (in fact Pat was a real naim-head), enthusiastic and friendly. I may ask if they could send someone over to check it out.

Strange, I also bought from Pat at Billy Vee and as stated earlier they were more than happy to come and install, I'm also an hour away. Pat even said that he would come over another time and check the installation if I wanted (as well as emphasising he was available on the phone to talk me through anything if I was struggling).

After the (non) service I received at another dealer, I am more than happy with how Billy Vee do things.

Seth
Is Naim the only way forward?
Ahh, Ahh! I'm burning!!

Woody,
When I bought my first Naim system more years ago that I'm going to admit to, from
The Sound Organisation in London, they traveled
up to Rugby a distance of aprox 80 miles on a saturday night to install the equipment and didn't leave until they and I was satisfied that everthing was up and running correctly,unfortunatly this was at about midnight.
They then had to travel back to London
Just a wee bit more than 1hour away .
You are ENTITLED to have your equipment set up in a professional way by your Dealer it's all part of the Naim dealer contract they are supposed to set things up until you are satisfied with the sound. GET THEM BACK to do it acording to their Naim dealership contract.

Oldie.

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Originally posted by oldie:
Woody,
When I bought my first Naim system more years ago that I'm going to admit to, from
The Sound Organisation in London, they traveled
up to Rugby a distance of aprox 80 miles on a saturday night to install the equipment and didn't leave until they and I was satisfied that everthing was up and running correctly,unfortunatly this was at about midnight.
They then had to travel back to London
Just a wee bit more than 1hour away .
You are ENTITLED to have your equipment set up in a professional way by your Dealer it's all part of the Naim dealer contract they are supposed to set things up until you are satisfied with the sound. GET THEM BACK to do it acording to their Naim dealership contract.

Oldie.

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Oldie,

I'm waiting on the speaker stands so I won't be listening to the system "properly" until then

I have obviously powered the kit up to get it warmed up but just made sure it works.

What would I expect from a dealer installation do that I can't do myself (after all, the wiring documentation is fairly clear)?

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Originally posted by Tom Alves:
For starters they will have a good idea about placing the sistem in the right part of the room to optimise sound quality. Then there's ensuring the sistem is actualy working correctly, and answering those questions you asked at the beginning of this thread.

Basically they should ensure that you are happy with what you purchased and that it's running as well as possible. Yes you can do it on your own but these guys have a lot experience. Why not make use of it, especially as it is part of the deal?

Tom

at activesbl . plus . com

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I agree. However the only problem regarding siting the kit is that my wife has very specific requirements of where it has to go, regardless of it's impact on sound quality

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Originally posted by Tom Alves:
That's were the dealer should have the experience you need. In theory they should be able to optimise the sound with in the constraints of living area.

Go on, invite them round, offer some wine.

Tom

at activesbl . plus . com

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good idea...may try that one - thanks for the advice. I'd be a bit worried, though, he'd tell me I need to do some major structural *or* marital modifications to optimise sound quality :-)

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I'd be a bit worried, though, he'd tell me I need to do some major structural *or* marital modifications to optimise sound quality :-)

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Doesn't sound like Pat's game really, although I'll bet he brings a NAP150 to tempt you with (I refused to listen to it until at least my Christmas bonus)

Seth
Is Naim the only way forward?
Ahh, Ahh! I'm burning!!

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Originally posted by Maxi Me:

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I'd be a bit worried, though, he'd tell me I need to do some major structural *or* marital modifications to optimise sound quality :-)

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Doesn't sound like Pat's game really, although I'll bet he brings a NAP150 to tempt you with (I refused to listen to it until at least my Christmas bonus)

Seth
_Is Naim the only way forward?
Ahh, Ahh! I'm burning!!_

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Pat asked where I'd heard of Billy Vee, I mentioned our discussions on the Naim forum. He told me he didn't think you'd have your NAIT for long(!) so obviously he thinks he's got to you!

Hi Woody
Congrats on the new purchase you'll get hours of pure listening pleasure from it. You've had some sound advice from the posts, but at the end of the day, its what sounds good to you that matters. I will add one piece of advice which was given to me by various forum members, don't forget to leave the kit switched on 24/7 it does make a difference.
Regards
Clive

Two worthwhile things to do with your new system other than playing lots of music.

Leave the locking collars loose on the SNAIC's -it's been said here many times I'm sure and I was sceptical but it does make a difference.

Get a Hydra mains leads from Grahams Hi-Fi, v reasonably priced compared to many mains connectors, v tidy solution and I think beneficial to the sound to about the same degree as above.

About six months in with my CD5, 112/150 & FC2 and there's no going back!

Olly

Woody,
Sorry I haven't replied earler but I/better half had to go out and have just come back. TOm is absolutely correct, no matter what
problems either you or your better half, throw at your dealer he/they should have the experance to be able to obtain the best sound
that is possible in the conditions that appertain, you have spent a lot of your hard earned cash, you surly want to get the best possible returns, reproduction wise.
you might read the thread on "dealer satsisfaction", that Don raised to see how importaint it is to get the dealer to carry out his part of the bargain
Enjoy your music
Oldie.

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Originally posted by Olly:
Two worthwhile things to do with your new system other than playing lots of music.

Leave the locking collars loose on the SNAIC's -it's been said here many times I'm sure and I was sceptical but it does make a difference.

Get a Hydra mains leads from Grahams Hi-Fi, v reasonably priced compared to many mains connectors, v tidy solution and I think beneficial to the sound to about the same degree as above.

About six months in with my CD5, 112/150 & FC2 and there's no going back!

Olly

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Olly,

When you say leave the locking collars loose, do you mean don't tighten the screw or do you mean don't twist the locking bit onto the connector? Currently I've taken them as they came, pushed them on and turned them so they lock. I'm sure that makes sense

Hi Enigma,

I have been looking for a "decent" hifi for ages (ever since I made the decision to sell my old - admittedly average (Rotel etc) - stereo kit and go AV - and realised that whilst movies sounded good, music reproduction was pretty dire and I'd have to have a music-only system in addition to the AV kit). Anyway, I listened to pretty much everything out there (in my pricerange - I don't want to listen to something costing many thousands more only to pine for it!!!) and funnily enough had always considered naim way out of my league. Upon hearing it - even though I know what I've got is very much entry-level - it was the best of the lot by several miles and that was it!

Like I think I've said already, I really thought Pat at Billy Vee was great and certainly don't want to suggest otherwise. He loves naim kit and certainly knows a lot about it! And yes, I was in a rush to take the kit home. Pat did talk me through things (incl. telling me about the "reverse" spkr connectionsn on the nait) and told me I could call him if I had any problems/question etc. To be honest I didn't find the connections too difficult - but the way the signal appears to go nait->flatcap->nait surprised me!


I may pick up a puck when I'm down that way again.

I am leaving the kit on all the time, but I'm not leaving it playing music all the time (don't think the dogs or wife would appreciate it too much - not to mention the neighbours!)

Cheers,

Woody