What Book Are You Reading?
Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 23 April 2007
My Thread has gone, so here is the second part.
Currently in the "Lonely Planet Polish Phrasebook."
ATB from Fredrik
[Edited for typos!]
Posted on: 21 December 2007 by Onthlam
Britney Spears moms' new book."How to be a good parent".
Posted on: 21 December 2007 by jim c
Marc
Can I borrow that book when you're finished?
Merry Christmas all,
jimc
Posted on: 25 December 2007 by RichardM
Posted on: 25 December 2007 by RichardM
quote:
Originally posted by Diccus62:
quote:
Originally posted by Voltaire:
Diccus62, you wont go far wrong with Roth, he is prob our greatest living writer on the human condition.
If you like Roth you may try Kafka, a little different and harder to digest but his take on the human condition is also stunning.
Thanks you Sir, I hear a lot about him but i'm a Roth virgin. First couple of pages seem wonderfully descriptive.
Regards
Diccus
If you like Philip Roth, try this one if you haven't already read it.
Posted on: 26 December 2007 by Diccus62
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by Bruce Woodhouse
Just read No Country For Old Men by Cormac Macarthy. Excellent fast paced and black thriller with a subtle warmth and humour. The Coen brothers movie is due here in the next few weeks, it reads like a perfect script for their talents (Fargo is my favourite movie of all time).
Bruce
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by Chris Kelly
My new camera's instruction manual - all 421 pages of it! Not exactly point and shhot!
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by Chris Kelly
Or even point and shoot!
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
Well I am following up something that I posted about before Christmas. I was most kindly sent a book called "What Is The Point Of Being A Christian," by Timothy Ratcliffe op.
I had to look up what "op" stands for, but it boils down to being a Dominican Preacher, so a Roman Catholic. About as un-Dawkins-like as the imagination might allow for. A totally welcoming start and it is a page turner, perhaps surprisingly for some.
ATB from George
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by Huwge
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Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
My new camera's instruction manual - all 421 pages of it! Not exactly point and shhot!
Spill the beans Chris, what is it? Have recently become the owner of a Ricoh GRD II, a very nice back up for my Ms
Huw
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by JWM
Posted on: 27 December 2007 by Chris Kelly
Huwge
I had my M8, Noctilux, both triElmars, 75mmf2 and 35mmf2 stolen from my car, along with my Olympus e510 and 2 lenses. Not insured as they were not locked in the boot (mea culpa). For the time being I have bought a D300 and 18-200VR lens, until such time as I can justify replacing the Leica stuff (or at least some of it). I still have my 2 M7s but no lenses for them! (I have a .58 and a .85). Actually not true, I do have the 75mm f1.4 and 90mmf2.8.) The wide triElmar had become my preferred lens but it is hugely expensive to replace. (Still go my R9/DMR but it is not an everyday carry around camera.)
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by Huwge
Chris,
Holy crap! Can't say much more, other than how sorry I am. You sometimes see 2nd hand WATE's at the LUF but it will always be a chunk of coin, at least Leica still make it. As for the Nocti
You might want to try the new Summarits as a cheap way back in, they are getting rave reviews. I love the 75 as a travel lens. Also, one of my favourite lenses is a 1957 rigid Summicron. You can pick these up quite easily at pretty good prices.
Huw
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by Chris Kelly
Thanks for that Huw. Even 3 Summarits and a body is going to set me back £5k. I'll use the D300 for now and maybe buy back in once my bank account can stand it! The WATE was exceptional. I got it at a great price as my dealer was closing down - doubt I'll see such a bargain again! Maybe I should just hang on for the M9 (or even the R10 if my lenses will work on it!).
Meanwhile, still working through the D300 manual. This is an extremely configurable machine!
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by Basil
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Originally posted by GFFJ:
I am afraid I failed with The God Delusion. Dawkins is writing for the ready converted atheists, and ultimately his mind is no less closed than the religious zealotes he is poking fun at. His arguements are largely reasoned, but he over eggs the case. It is possible to respect peoples' views even if one does not agree with them. The trick is to understand why they hold them, and then you begin to see that they may have a point, even if you still don't agree with it!!
That is called tollerance, of which there is not enough in the modern world...
Fredrik
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and ultimately his mind is no less closed than the religious zealots he is poking fun at.
So because RD is as passionate in his defence of evolution as a fundamentalist Christian is opposed to evolution, he is just as bad?
Let's suppose some new fossil evidence is uncovered that contradicts evolution, fossil rabbits in the Precambrian perhaps? Do you think RD would ignore this and continue to support evolution? Of course not.
You mention tolerance, how much tolerance should we show to a belief system that produces people willing to kill anyone that opposes them?
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
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So because RD [Richard Dawkins] is as passionate in his defence of evolution as a fundamentalist Christian is opposed to evolution, he is just as bad?
Yes.
And trying to read his book was one catalist for me to move away from an attempt at atheism!
ATB from George
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Janes,
There is absolutely nothing to say about RD!
I quite agree. He may not be wrong, but he certainly posseses the impertinence to pressume that he is certainly right and that is just as certainly is wrong!
Proof is just about the last thing needed in the issue of Faith. Indeed there is no linkage at all by definition! What I search is a justfication for kindness and love. Nothing else.
A good friend, who is a lay Clerck at Hereford cathedral has suggested that I make contact via Belmeont Abbey where his mother in law Worships. I wish this were a possibility, but it is 30 miles away and totally imapractical ...
For once "*" speaks volumes!
Happy New Year, and bless ... George
Posted on: 28 December 2007 by Chalshus
Holy macaroni.
Havnet finished Papillion yet....
Started 02-09 this year.
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by JWM
quote:
Originally posted by GFFJ:
Dear Janes,
There is absolutely nothing to say about RD!
I quite agree. He may not be wrong, but he certainly posseses the impertinence to pressume that he is certainly right and that is just as certainly is wrong!
Proof is just about the last thing needed in the issue of Faith. Indeed there is no linkage at all by definition! What I search is a justfication for kindness and love. Nothing else.
A good friend, who is a lay Clerck at Hereford cathedral has suggested that I make contact via Belmeont Abbey where his mother in law Worships. I wish this were a possibility, but it is 30 miles away and totally imapractical ...
For once "*" speaks volumes!
Happy New Year, and bless ... George
I agree that I think you would warm to Belmont very much, but understand why it would be impractical for you.
So how about St George's RC Church, Worcester? This is where
Elgar was organist (as was his father, who converted to Rome only on his deathbed in 1906).
James
EDIT PS St George's is not the only RC Church in Worcester, of course!
There are a number in the area (though the Benedictine Community at Stanbrook Abbey has now moved to a new house in Yorkshire). You might like to try them, though I think to some degree there is case for sticking with the first one where you you find a suitably shaped hole for a George-shaped peg!
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear James,
Saint Georges is only five minutes walk from me! I even know someone who goes there to worship.
It was Elgar as a young man deputising for his father at the organ there who bravely played Bach in the Church!
ATB from George
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by JWM
quote:
Originally posted by GFFJ:
Saint Georges is only five minutes walk from me! I even know someone who goes there to worship.
An excellent reason to start there! Keeping it local if possible and already knowing someone who 'knows the ropes'.
ATB,
James
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by Basil
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,
I am quite capable of finding things that amount to perversions done by Christians, even some who claim a religious justification for their actions, but these actually are only a continuation of the persversion of the human spirit that tries to justify evil for their own ends on others, carried on by many people, Christian or not. To carry on in an evil fashion is not the teaching of the Church at all.
It in no way diminishes the Christian messgage that some people who are charlatans and evil hypocrites take the its message in vain.
One needs to look further than the faulty human level, to the spiritual aspect, and try to do the best one can.
I did not look at your link. I am sure it is horrible and justifies your view that Christians are all misguided, if that be your view. Either way fear not for my well being!
On the other hand I find the evangelising atheists just as obnoxious as the hard core, often right wing, evangelising Christians, often cited as the example of what is wrong with Christianity. In light of this I am thinking very carefully how to approach the Church again after a failed 25 year spell of trying to find some spiritual sense in the atheist stance. Having decided my route the last thing I shall do is use my faith to justify evil actions, or indeed to evangelise, though if questioned I shall not bury my bushel by remaining silent on the subject.
ATB from George
Posted on: 29 December 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,
I decided to look at your link. Shocking isn't it? These terrible people who seek to judge! Indeed for the Christian there is only one Judge, and He is not human!
I can only hope that these people are honest when they make confession, which is bound upon them to do if they are true Christians ...
On the other hand they are human, frail, and who among us can claim never to have been intemperate, and done wrong things as a result, and even sought to justify these acts?
I can disagree with Dawkins, but I am not going to judge whether he should rot in hell! I am not the Judge in this issue!
ATB from George
Posted on: 30 December 2007 by Basil
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It was Elgar as a young man deputising for his father at the organ there who bravely played Bach in the Church!
I'm curious, why was Elgar's playing of Bach in the church brave?
