REM - is anyone bothered?
Posted by: rupert bear on 30 June 2008
Long-time fan from the early 80s, I gave up with 'Around the Sun' which was deadly dull, and haven't bothered with the new one. Has it revealed itself as a minor masterpiece, or shall I ignore them for good and catch up on all the great music around?
Posted on: 30 June 2008 by Whizzkid
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:
Dear Dean,
Thanks! I shall watch out for these! I know Miles Davies, and find his works much harder than old Bach's, but I suppose I kinda spent a long time getting to where I am with old JSB! It is not obvious for a while either.
ATB from George
George,
If you find Miles a little hard to take don't go anywhere near Autechre or Squarepusher might be a little to out there.
Dean..
Posted on: 30 June 2008 by u5227470736789439
Dear Dean,
I think we are all of us "a little out there" from time to time. The important thing for me is not to take it too seriously when others think I am wrong! Happens all the time in any case! I would be in depression by now if I took it all seriously!
Like the 72 thread in the Hifi Corner. I canonly speak other than as I find, and disagreement is actually more constructive, than agreement, provided everyone gets their say without the temperature rising.
That is what I like about this Forum. Mostly the temperature does not rise too much!
I have some CDs for you! Hint, send me an address!
ATB from G
I think we are all of us "a little out there" from time to time. The important thing for me is not to take it too seriously when others think I am wrong! Happens all the time in any case! I would be in depression by now if I took it all seriously!
Like the 72 thread in the Hifi Corner. I canonly speak other than as I find, and disagreement is actually more constructive, than agreement, provided everyone gets their say without the temperature rising.
That is what I like about this Forum. Mostly the temperature does not rise too much!
I have some CDs for you! Hint, send me an address!
ATB from G
Posted on: 30 June 2008 by Tam
I agree about the first two albums, though I'm much fonder of The Songs of Leonard Cohen (I love Teachers and Once of Us Cannot Be Wrong, and of course Suzanne), but I'm less fond of Songs from a Room. I think Live Songs (his earliest live album, if I'm not mistaken) is excellent, in particular Passing Through and Please Don't Pass Me By, neither of which show up on any of the studio albums.
I think it's the sense of anger and outrage in The Future that makes it so powerful. I also love the description of America in Democracy as "the cradle of the best and of the worst".
regards, Tam
I think it's the sense of anger and outrage in The Future that makes it so powerful. I also love the description of America in Democracy as "the cradle of the best and of the worst".
regards, Tam
Posted on: 30 June 2008 by Tam
quote:Originally posted by ROTF:
I stayed up late to watch Len's Glasto set, but they said Len didn't want it recorded, as he had no plans to release a new album - so I think we are going to be disappointed.
That doesn't really make sense - surely he would refuse to record because he DID want to release an album. It would be more puzzling if he didn't given his recent financial woes.
regards, Tam
Posted on: 01 July 2008 by Steve S1
quote:Originally posted by Tam:quote:Originally posted by ROTF:
I stayed up late to watch Len's Glasto set, but they said Len didn't want it recorded, as he had no plans to release a new album - so I think we are going to be disappointed.
That doesn't really make sense - surely he would refuse to record because he DID want to release an album. It would be more puzzling if he didn't given his recent financial woes.
regards, Tam
I would like to add my thanks to Leonard Cohen for his well judged decision not to be filmed by the BBC.

Posted on: 01 July 2008 by BigH47
A thread title from 2013 "The National - is anyone bothered?"
Posted on: 01 July 2008 by Guido Fawkes
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
A thread title from 2013 "The National - is anyone bothered?"
Not anymore, my horse was winning coming in to Beachers, but ended up 7th

Posted on: 02 July 2008 by Diccus62
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
A thread title from 2013 "The National - is anyone bothered?"
Nice one

Posted on: 02 July 2008 by Simon Perry
Neil Young has had his ups and downs but still makes great music.
Posted on: 03 July 2008 by Briz Vegas
Well its page 2 and I think we have our answer. Naim folk are over REM.
I have a few too many REM discs. I loved the early stuff and new adventures in hifi rekindled some interest. These are the discs that still find there way onto my hifi occasionally - the early discs more so but I discovered them later - I only knew the singles at the time of release.
Once you have more than a few discs of any artist it becomes harder to get excited about new releases.
They did write some true classics. "End of the world as we know it" for example. I can still recall my delight when a new friend back in 1995 recited the words out of the blue while we were waiting in the car park of the local blockbuster - I only ever understood 1/2 the words on the record.
Some bands will always be a bit special because of the memories they trigger. Music is all about emotion after all.
I have a few too many REM discs. I loved the early stuff and new adventures in hifi rekindled some interest. These are the discs that still find there way onto my hifi occasionally - the early discs more so but I discovered them later - I only knew the singles at the time of release.
Once you have more than a few discs of any artist it becomes harder to get excited about new releases.
They did write some true classics. "End of the world as we know it" for example. I can still recall my delight when a new friend back in 1995 recited the words out of the blue while we were waiting in the car park of the local blockbuster - I only ever understood 1/2 the words on the record.
Some bands will always be a bit special because of the memories they trigger. Music is all about emotion after all.
Posted on: 03 July 2008 by Steve S1
Yes, they have already achieved far more than most bands could ever dream of.
Steve
Steve
Posted on: 03 July 2008 by BigH47
As Steve says, I reckon most bands would be happy with the equivalentof a quarter of REMs back catalogue.
Posted on: 03 July 2008 by Chris Kelly
And the associated royalties! 

Posted on: 03 July 2008 by Diccus62
REM are dead, long live REM, maybe they were the first emo indie boys 

Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Mike Hughes
The first thing to say is that I too have loved REM. I too would never, ever buy Around The Sun. It is dull of the worst kind.
I do however own Accelerate. Basically it is half a great album. The bad half is no different to Adventures, Up, Reveal etc. It kinda grows on you but none of it is essential in any sense. The first 4 songs however are excellent along with Horse To Water. If you liked Reckoning, Document or (less so perhaps) Monster then you will adore these. The best 5 tracks REM have done in at least 15 years by some distance. My only caveat is that the production is awful.
Mike
I do however own Accelerate. Basically it is half a great album. The bad half is no different to Adventures, Up, Reveal etc. It kinda grows on you but none of it is essential in any sense. The first 4 songs however are excellent along with Horse To Water. If you liked Reckoning, Document or (less so perhaps) Monster then you will adore these. The best 5 tracks REM have done in at least 15 years by some distance. My only caveat is that the production is awful.
Mike
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Steve S1
quote:Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
The bad half is no different to Adventures, Up, Reveal etc.
Mike
I must be the only REM fan who actually likes Reveal.

Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Briz Vegas
No I don't mind it, but for me it has some novelty value as it is one of my 2 DVD-A discs. I only have the kit to play it in Dolby Digital. It was part of my investigation into 5.1 music.
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Mike Hughes
quote:Originally posted by Steve S1:quote:Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
The bad half is no different to Adventures, Up, Reveal etc.
Mike
I must be the only REM fan who actually likes Reveal.![]()
I do quite like Reveal. Taken on its own merits it's a decent enough album. Stood alongside everything pre-Monster it rather pales.
Mike