Most Disappointing Al***?
Posted by: Gavin B on 14 February 2002
In a vein similar to that of the 'Worst Song' thread, which album has disappointed you most on first (and any subsequent) listen?
This doesn't have to be because the music was bad, but could be just not what you expected to hear.
Me, I'm going for Midnite Vultures by Beck. This represented too much of a change in direction from his previous albums which I loved (although much of the first album is pretty unlistenable)
A close second would be Phantom 51 by the North Mississippi Allstars. Music is fine, but I think the standard of their debut album (Shake Hands With Shorty) was too much to live up to.
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by bigtrak
For me its The New radicals - Maybe you've been brainwashed too. After hearing "You get what you give" I thought the album was going to be a good one. Sadly it was pants!
All i can say is thank god we now have file sharing programs such as Limewire etc. At least you can get an idea of an album before you go out and spend your money!
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by redeye
Shit # 1...the indescribable KAK that is 'Rythym and Stealth' by Leftfield. Mainly because 'Leftism' was (and is) so very very goooood 
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Pete
Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking by Roger Waters. Expecting something along Pink Floyd lines, got a load of drivel without any tunes and a "concept" so obscured by pretentious verbiage it was unrecognisable.
Utter cack and a waste of the considerable talents on board.
Pete.
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by garyi
For me its probably best to stick with last years efforts!.
That would be 'the strokes' this is it, I was sooo dissapointed after all the reviews etc, it all sounds exactly the same, some bloke singing through a tranny radio.
and 'The Beta Band' hot shots 2, I really do not know what people were on about, its drivel.
All IMO of course!
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by David Quigley
I remember buying Don Henley's "Building the Pefect Beast". Apart from Boys of Summer - the thing is a pile of unbelievable KAK.
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Hammerhead
Outrospective. Utter pile compared to their first two albums. Stands as an enormous cowpat in it's own right too.
Steve
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Alex S.
'Papua New Guinea Endless Kak Mix'
C'mon guys, go and make a new tune.
Alex
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by dvdkeogh
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Outrospective. Utter pile compared to their first two albums. Stands as an enormous cowpat in it's own right too.
Stevie D
I have to vehemently challenge your dismissal of Outrospective. As you’ll have seen in another recent posting of mine, I think that Outrospective was one of the best of last year’s releases. However, I will to admit to being mildly disappointed upon first listening to it – it seemed bland and didn’t involve. It wasn’t what I’d been expecting. However, I felt the same sensation after rushing home with Saturday 8PM. It was on continued ‘hearing’ of the CD that its grandeur became apparent. It’s certainly different in production to Reverence and 8PM, more polished seemingly with darker, blacker, silences. Most obviously it lacks the input of Jamie Catto whose previous involvement juxtaposed the dance and rap orientation of other band members. However, taken on its own terms it works its way into hearts and minds very quickly. The only disappointment that lingers is that the last track isn’t a ‘killer’ in the vein of Drifting Away and Killer’s Lullaby –good though it is. What’s more, how can you not fall for the vocals of Zoe Johnston and Dido?
Dave
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Hammerhead
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As you’ll have seen in another recent posting of mine, I think that Outrospective was one of the best of last year’s releases.
Oh dear.
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It’s certainly different in production to Reverence and 8PM, more polished seemingly with darker, blacker, silences.
Just not silent enough for my liking 
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What’s more, how can you not fall for the vocals of Zoe Johnston and Dido?
I have no problem with the former but the latter I do object to. She’s only there because of her brother (Rollo) and is a nice link in order to sell more of each others records. Nowt wrong with that I suppose, just a bit obvious in my opinion. They’ve already got Sister Bliss and what’s wrong with her!?
Outrospective has its moments. I do actually like Donny X & Crazy English Summer for it’s dreamy feel, but I find everything else rather lacking. Faithless appear not to have moved on this album, rather stepped back from their cutting edge feel of their earlier offerings. I’m sure they even sampled one of their live drum bits from 8pm which is just plain lazy (and cheap no matter how good it was). The Album version of We Come 1 is bloody awful as well – yuk!
I don’t know if you’ve got it, but try and get hold of Rollo’s solo album under the name of Dusted. When I first heard this I thought it average but that has grown on me a lot. It has soul, atmosphere & a sense of humour which Outrospective lacks bigtime.
I had been looking forward to seeing them live this year but I don’t think I’m going to bother if all they’ll going to play is this ‘new stuff’ and Insomnia just for old times sake. (I’m still in awe of their live performances when promoting 8pm!) I just think it sounds like it’s been made for the masses/charts. Shame. I hope they do much better next time.
Steve
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Peter Stockwell
Not that it's bad, it's just that I find it glacial and I can only be impressed by it, I'm not moved.
Nearly every record Carlos Santana has made after the first brace.
Peter
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by rn
A couple spring to mind. Difficult to separate;
Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Genesis "Abacab"
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Mike in CO
I have to strongly argue against the vote for Beck's latest as a disappointing effort, (and for his first being largely unlistenable). IMHO, the new record was intended to be nothing but a dance/party album, and compared to virutally anything of that ilk out there, "M.V." is an amazing effort -- beats and easy hooks, but also very smart, much more than throwaway dance music. Beck's a thinker, everything he does has depth, you just have to dig to figure out what it's about. On "M.V." he borrows -- OK steals in some cases -- from some great pop and funk artists, adds his own stuff, and blends it all together in a way that's non-stop fun.
And I like his versatility -- the fact that it's a departure from anything he's done before -- I don't like artists who release the same record year after year. I don't know of other artists who can boast having a dance record ("M.V."), a songwriter/folk record ("Mutations"), and a host of other material that doesn't fit any real mold ("Mellow Gold," "Odelay," his b-side collections), all of which are excellent, intelligent efforts that reward repeat listening.
The "M.V." recording isn't that great, but certainly listenable.
M
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by Cheese
Still can't believe they court produce such **** after Rattle and Hum
Cheese
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by JohnS
I am a huge Dylan fan and I bought this album with high hopes of another Nirvana type Unplugged album. No. It is horrible, tuneless "re-interpretations" with Dylan mumbling apathetically (and don't say "so what's new?"
). It got played once and is currently residing on the "where are they now?" shelf.
btw I have to agree with Mike about Beck's MV. Fantastic. As is almost everything Beck has done.
-John
Posted on: 14 February 2002 by David Quigley
John, funny - I had identical experience with that record - it is pure crap.
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by Steve Catterall
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Everything in the Pop/Rock Genre produced since CD arrived. If it's not derivative or Dance CCCCRAAAAPPPP it's pop drivel turned out by dancers who don't play instruments and can't sing either.
Wow - the kids must be doing something right.
Just the sort of reaction I would have loved from some old koot.
Back to your old Glen Miller then eh 
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by John C
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by dvdkeogh
Steveie D
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[Dido] She’s only there because of her brother (Rollo) and is a nice link in order to sell more of each others records. Nowt wrong with that I suppose, just a bit obvious in my opinion. They’ve already got Sister Bliss and what’s wrong with her!?
Thing is, some of the best parts of Reverence and 8PM (IMHO) feature Dido's ethereal vocals, so even though it is twee, I think we should not begrudge her inclusion on one song - especially when it is as good as it is...
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I had been looking forward to seeing them live this year but I don’t think I’m going to bother if all they'll going to play is this ‘new stuff’ and Insomnia just for old times sake. (I’m still in awe of their live performances when promoting 8pm!)
I saw Faithless at the Birmingham Academy last November, I think it was the last performance before Maxi cracked his pelvis (or whatever) in his car accident. TRUST ME IT WAS AMAZING!!! If you thought We Come One was lacking on Outro., in comparison everything is lacking compared to it live - especially with Maxi's crowd whipping audience participation! It took on a special significance what with Sept. 11, the Israeli aggression in the Middle East and Northern Ireland. I could go on talking about the other songs but I know that I don't have to, you know that Faithless are one of the most amazing live performers - and you should know that Zoe Johnston sounds even better live, even singing the sample from Not Enough Love. She is a star...
As for dusted, I heard samples of their tracks and was sorely tempted to buy the album, but I convinced myself into buying a promo copy of some of there songs just to check whether I'd like it. Should have just bought the album, so when I go back to Newcastle I will.
Am waiting patiently for their next album, still satisfied and listening to Reverence, 8PM, Outro. and some of their other one-off stuff... I just can’t get fed up of their output... I'm sorry you have with Outro.
Dave
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by Steve Catterall
John ...
I heartily agree with everything the Goddess Tanya says about everything.
She has Jazz sussed completely. 
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by Mike in CO
Maybe I'm the late-comer to the party, but I was recently introduced to the tomes of Tanya, and although I found them funny at first -- something struck me. She knows way too much about this music she seems to hate. I wonder if it's not just some clever twist to raise the ire and blood pressure of obsessive music/musician fans? It also seems a colossal amount of time and energy to spend researching and debunking something you hate so much. I don't spend hours writing about daytime soap operas, but I genuinely hate them, with as much disdain as Tanya seems to have for music.
Has the "clever joke" idea been Tanya's intent all along, or does anyone know for a fact that she's for real, and she really does hate all of that stuff?
M
Posted on: 15 February 2002 by Steve Catterall
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I wonder if it's not just some clever twist to raise the ire and blood pressure of obsessive music/musician fans?
Do you really think so ???
Surely if you hate something as much as she hates music, you would willingly spend all your time reseaching, so that you could successfully debunk it.
I know I hate soap and operas ... and I find loads of time to investigate exactly how dreadful they are, so that I can hate them even more 
Posted on: 16 February 2002 by Alex S.
Others who started well and at best rested on their laurels, or at worst produced an endless pile of kak thereafter, include UB40, Enigma, Deep Forest. . .
Alex
Posted on: 16 February 2002 by Chris Brandon
Two that spring to mind are...
1. Terrance Trent D'Arby - Neither Fish Nor Flesh
But it's the one where he does a kind of Yoko Ono "thing" all the way through it (...Yoko's not on my favourite artist list either). I think that the album flopped cos I picked it up V cheap not long after it was released.
2. Linkin Park - Papercut - I can't find anything on this album that I like (...I usually find something I like in most things I listen to,but so far,not this one)
Regards
Chris
[This message was edited by Chris Brandon on SATURDAY 16 February 2002 at 10:53.]
Posted on: 16 February 2002 by throbnorth
The first S'Express album, 'Original Soundtrack' was a magnificent hi-energy rushy sort of a thing that made me want to shake my booty furiously, whereas the second, 'Intercourse' was dull, turgid and made my booty want to do something entirely different....
Posted on: 18 February 2002 by Robby
Jackson Browne's Lawyers in Love was pretty dire - all his albums after the Pretender seemed to slide to this all time low.
