Be Afraid
Posted by: John Sheridan on 23 September 2005
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by andy c
Its a frighteing time, isn't it?
And not just for communities...
And not just for communities...
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by John Sheridan
this is the sort of thing that you expect to happen in places like China, not in a democratic country. I hope he takes it further.
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by andy c
John,
shall I bite to that one. Er, No.
shall I bite to that one. Er, No.
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by andy c:
John,
shall I bite to that one. Er, No.
?
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by MichaelC
Lucky for him he wasn't shot...better duck now.
Posted on: 23 September 2005 by Roy T
Lucky for him he did not have any encryption or anonymous proxy software loaded on his pc otherwise another couple of boxes could have been ticked.
Posted on: 24 September 2005 by Martin D
I think we should be very affaid:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,892081,00.html
http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,892081,00.html
http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/
Posted on: 26 September 2005 by Two-Sheds
what I find hard to believe is that after searching him and his bag and finding nothing suspicious why not just say sorry and let him go about his business?
And if they really thought he was checking the place out to bomb later then why not say sorry and delete all records after the search of his property and find nothing?
Have we really allowed the authorities so much that they can arrest someone and search thier house, take DNA samples for simply not making eye contact with a copper and using a cell phone???
Quite frankly it's stuff like this that makes me embarrased to be British and quite glad I don't live there anymore.
And if they really thought he was checking the place out to bomb later then why not say sorry and delete all records after the search of his property and find nothing?
Have we really allowed the authorities so much that they can arrest someone and search thier house, take DNA samples for simply not making eye contact with a copper and using a cell phone???
Quite frankly it's stuff like this that makes me embarrased to be British and quite glad I don't live there anymore.
Posted on: 30 September 2005 by Lomo
Happening in Australia too, where the police may now hold suspects up to 14 days without charge.
I am afraid this is just the thin edge of the wedge and George Orwell's prophesys are just beginning to fully bite.
I am afraid this is just the thin edge of the wedge and George Orwell's prophesys are just beginning to fully bite.
Posted on: 01 October 2005 by Steve G
With our current fascist laws in place I suspect that if the police can detain an 82 year old labour party delegate under the terrorism act just for shouting "nonsense" then they can pretty much detain anyone at any time.
Posted on: 01 October 2005 by Mick P
Chaps
The terrorists have new weapons so we need new weapons to fight back.
Every change causes problems but you have to learn to adapt to it or literally die.
The old days are over, so forget them and move on.
Regards
Mick
The terrorists have new weapons so we need new weapons to fight back.
Every change causes problems but you have to learn to adapt to it or literally die.
The old days are over, so forget them and move on.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 01 October 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Friends,
Ever heard of p****** in the wind? Well the terrorists are winning in one respect. They have succeeded in giving the gov'ts of the the old liberal democrasies an excuse for implimenting what looks very much like a police state mentality. I deplore the idea that files are apparently randomly held on people, though I have always fully supported the need for a secret service to watch suspected people. This has been happening for a long time in any case. Even in the "old days."
What I find deplorable is that the HM Opposition in UK is not fighting the whole-sale reduction in the rights to a free and private life by what I personally would rate as the most controling and power-centralising government this country has had since it became truly a democrasy with universal suffrage. [Since the vote for women in other words]. If one considers the terrorists' success (in their own perverted terms!), the whole thing boils down to something far less significant than death on the roads or death through preventable diease. Something is out of kilter here, IMO.
And what will be done with all this intelligence? If everyone is to be watched, and personally I could hardly care less if they watch me, for they will only get bored, then the real risk is that nuggets of important and relevant information will be loss in the total mass... And the terrorist will succeed in further terror.
Fredrik
Ever heard of p****** in the wind? Well the terrorists are winning in one respect. They have succeeded in giving the gov'ts of the the old liberal democrasies an excuse for implimenting what looks very much like a police state mentality. I deplore the idea that files are apparently randomly held on people, though I have always fully supported the need for a secret service to watch suspected people. This has been happening for a long time in any case. Even in the "old days."
What I find deplorable is that the HM Opposition in UK is not fighting the whole-sale reduction in the rights to a free and private life by what I personally would rate as the most controling and power-centralising government this country has had since it became truly a democrasy with universal suffrage. [Since the vote for women in other words]. If one considers the terrorists' success (in their own perverted terms!), the whole thing boils down to something far less significant than death on the roads or death through preventable diease. Something is out of kilter here, IMO.
And what will be done with all this intelligence? If everyone is to be watched, and personally I could hardly care less if they watch me, for they will only get bored, then the real risk is that nuggets of important and relevant information will be loss in the total mass... And the terrorist will succeed in further terror.
Fredrik