Ornaments placed on CD5

Posted by: cunningplan on 17 August 2003

I've gto a slight dilemma with regard my system. I recently persuaded my wife that I should have my Flatcap 2 now and not wait until Xmas, but with the proviso from her that she could place an ornamental bowl on top of the CD.
I've had my Flatcap but have gone back on my promise to place her beloved bowl on top of the CD5 you can only imagine the grief I'm getting.
My question is does it, or will it, degrade the sound over a period of time it doesn't appear to do at present (but I've told her it does)I would appreciate views from you guys otherwise any future upgrades to the system stops now!
Regards
Clive

[This message was edited by cunningplan on SUNDAY 17 August 2003 at 08:50.]
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by StuartA:
on a more serious note the bowl does not have a plant that needs watering in it.....


It's just two goldfish.

They are both male, but they do enjoy the music, from what I've heard.

Herman
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by cunningplan
To satisfy the curiosity of everyone with regard type, size composition of the offending object I enclose a pic
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Not For Me
Me, I'd more worried about the speaker being that close rather than the tasteful vase?

DS

OTD - Burnt Freidman & Jake Leizbiet - Secret Rhythms
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by prowla
Gotta say - that looks fairly hideous!
However, it's my guess that the speaker right next to your system will have a much greater effect!

Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by cunningplan
God what have I started here, perhaps I should invite you all round for a beer so we can discuss where everything should be placed. I suppose a bit like Changing Rooms for Hi-Fi Smile

Regards
Clive

PS By the way Paul it wouldn't be safe for you to come the wife is deeply offended by your description of the bowl, although I have to agree with you!
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by cunningplan
I've moved the speakers and the stand as far apart as I can from each other aprox 15 inches. I do have limited options where things can go.
Regards
Clive
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by herm
The bowl looks great on the CD5. Speaker proximity could use some working on. On the other hand, what this is about is having a hifi as a part of your life, rather than in a guy pen / listening room.

Why shouldn't your wife and you be able to listen to music (and enjoy a good view of the bowl) while having some down time? The overwhelming evidence is once you have a socalled "listening room" you'll never listen to the music again. All you'll do is listen whether you need to do any more tweaking.

Herman
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by Marco:
Tell me then, what 'overwhelming evidence' are you referring to?

And I require statistical, scientifically proven evidence to confirm your theory.


The evidence is you. And that's a lot of evidence. You never ever mention a rabbit's tiny toe nail of music (and I mean a tiny rabbit) - and you're always jabbering about going the extra mile in your mini shoe box of a listening room. That's all.

BTW you said you'd switched on the Herm Ignore Mode? Poor Marcy boy. Can't live with me / can't live without me?

It's gotta be tough out there in Wales Roll Eyes

However, the subject is Clive, his wife and the bowl on his CD5. If you wanna talk about you, Stally, why don't you start your own thread?

Herman
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by cam
Is there any reason why the CD5 must be on top?

I've the same issue with you as my wife just loves to decorate my set-up and insisted that a crystal vase /w a single stalk rose be placed on the top shelf.

So, I've rearranged the flatcap2, nait5, cd5 and tt in descending order.

Now, the rose (fake and does not need watering!) looks pretty good sitting on top and my music has not sufferd.
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Steve Toy
The CD5 only really need to be on top where a "reference" shelf is in place to enhance the performance of the source component.

Mana with a Reference Top and Quadraspire Reference are the best two examples I can think of.

Otherwise I'd suggest placing the preamp on top with the CD5 underneath it.



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Steve Toy
quote:
My wife has become totally intrigued and amused by this thread to the extent that she's planning on other nik naks cluttering up my system


I can see where this is going.

You want to optimise the performance of your hi-fi; she wants the room to look nice and lived-in (and I suppose you do too). A compromise is where both objectives can be achieved.

She doesn't want both objectives to be achieved but you do.

This looks more and more like a political battle for supremecy in room #1 of the house.

You'll lose simply because only one of you is looking for a genuine compromise. The more she clutters up th sound of your hi-fi with "nik-naks" she wouldn't otherwise have considered but for reading this thread, the more you are losing a battle for the role of trouser-wearer.

Where will it end?

You'll end up selling the hi-fi altogether and replacing it with some Japanese mini silver boxes that are more in-vogue and will be seen and not heard (very often.)

You have been warned [tongue-in-cheek smilie].



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Steve Toy
Channel imbalance???

quote:
and the Greek head weighs over twenty pounds easy.


So you've effectively got one speaker weighing twenty or more pounds than the other.

I bet the two speakers sound different to each other.

If you like the sonic as well as aesthetic effect of damping one of your speakers with such a weight on top then I suggest you try to get hold of another equally heavy object to place on top of the other speaker.



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by herm
Thanks for the suggestion, Steven, and for suggesting I should not trust my ears, but rather listen to you.

May I in return suggest you work on your rather pervasive "trouser-wearer" imbalance problem? Your habit of not only dispensing rather iffy hifi advice, but also helping people with their marriage / domestic life (or rather help creating problems there) is a little ridiculous, coming from a man who still lives with his parents.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Herman
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Steve Toy
Seeing the wood for the trees?

quote:
but also helping people with their marriage / domestic life (or rather help creating problems there) is a little ridiculous, coming from a man who still lives with his parents.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.



Living with my parents, but with a plan to leave within the next couple of years to live with Tasha, I'm an outsider looking in and examining my fate... possibly.

I'm happy that my future and present SWMBO likes R&B/Urban music (I don't so much) cos it means she likes bass presence so I won't have to ditch my big speakers - she's already said that. Smile

As for goldfish bowls placed atop my kit and other worrying stuff, who knows?

She can be super-critical of bad sounds too...



Regards,

Steve.

PS: Regarding heavy weights upon your speakers I suggest a litle experimentation. Your own ears will be your guide and not mine.
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
Living with my parents, but with a plan to leave within the next couple of years to live with Tasha, I'm an outsider looking in and examining my fate... possibly.


Yes, well, we're all very excited for you, but perhaps in the interim you could do us a favor and stop telling everyone who's actually in a relationship / marriage to exert his boy rights to the full refusing every kind of domestic compromise. Most of us are doing just fine.

Herman
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by HTK
I wish there was an /ignore switch.

Please don't suggest that if I don't like a thread I shouldn't read it. There was nothing wrong with this one until the usual suspects started crapping all over it.

What a waste of bandwidth.
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by herm:
Yes, well, we're all very excited for you, but perhaps in the interim you could do us a favor and stop telling everyone who's actually in a relationship / marriage to exert his boy rights to the full refusing every kind of domestic compromise. Most of us are doing just fine.


Ahem... I'm with Steve on this one - I'm single and there's a good reason for that Wink

Seriously though, bowls on speakers and amps = bad - my gran nearly killed herself once, watering a plant, yep, on top of a piece of electronics (ok, so it was a telly, not a hifi, but) and you can guess what happened... BANG!

Water and electricity do not mix. Mind you, I'm partially sighted, so I couldn't tell if that bowl had water in it (it's not THAT hideous - thank god it's not Majolica ware or Clarence Cliff... - oh, or Lalique...)

Flower pots and lamps on speakers though - urm, let's not go there hey!? He he he...

Says the guy with clip on teletubbies, miniature glimmer globes, small Beetle/Audi TT models, and a female mannequin head, amongst other things, littering up his hifi racks... But not in the main system (barring a candlestick and a pair of "nut and bolt" musician sculputres on his speakers...)



That's not quite how it looks now, but you get the picture (the NAIT's now in my main system, and the Rega Ear is dead Frown )

When the music's over turn out the lights
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by NaimThatTune
OK, lets try to get things back on track.

Suppose the good gentleman honours his promise and allows the bowl to sit atop the CD5. Imagine the effect of this is to noticeably degrade the sound.

To solve this problem either you both can hear the degradation and decide to move the bowl or you have a perfect reason to start saving for a CDX2. I'm sure such a machine with a bowl on top still sounds better than a bare CD5 so there you have it.

I still reckon just building a little shelf for the bowl with legs to straddle the CD is the best plan, though.

Cheers!

Rich.
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by domfjbrown
...or, as that shelf system appears to be modular, you could buy one more glass shelf and the pillars, all for the bowl Smile

When the music's over turn out the lights
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by Andrew Randle
To cunningplan's wife,

CP's system looks like a work of art in itself and does not need the augmentation of a metal funnel. It's a bit like using an expensive statue as a coat-stand.

If the funnel does cause musical degredation, then it will only serve to encourage CP to buy a CDX (at £2600) much sooner.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
Linn Binn Sinner