connected media experience

Why? - just another would-be standards organization - can't see anything new or particularly novel.

It's hardly the ISO and if UPnP is anything to go by - well good luck.

Interesting that they want proof of purchase as part of their codec spec.

Tog

1. because that match with my vision for modern AV experience

2. is made from the biggest labels

3. relays on open standards

--qte
The new file format, called CMX, was created by EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner. It will function quite a bit like a DVD, with a launch page allowing for navigation to the related artwork and video portions of the album.
--uqte

Okli, you can do all you want to do right now with a variety of programmes that scrape the web for that information.

I should imagine sony et alls idea of open format will be like apples.

In Apples's case a format that works but only on beautifully designed equipment.

Tog

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connectedmediaexperience.org

Still pretty weak on presentation of graphical assets, e.g., liner notes within the specification–not yet ready for prime time (NYRFPT), methinks.

Let me describe my vision about the future in A/V entertainment here - perhaps this will make clear why I appreciate such solutions:

Imagine, there is a virtual representation of all your A/V equipment on a control unit - there is a rack stuffed with some players (incl. distributed), pre-amps, amps, etc. Imagine, you can control all of them on a very intuitive interface running on multiple platforms - just tab on your virtual Nait XS and select the next input, or control the volume - exactly as you should do this on the real unit. You even can see the physical connections b/n the units (ok, you should connect them in the reality :-). Further, you can assign them to different areas for multi-room support, etc. This could be accomplished by some means of UPnP protocol or whatever comes after / parallel to it. Now, after you are set up you need something to play on your equipment, right? Here comes CMX or whatever standard into play - you have your virtual bookshelf full with digital content - "select" the content you want to play and "insert" it into the corresponding player. Again, the boundaries between physical and virtual content should be very subtle - it should does not matter if you physically take a media content disk and insert it into the player, or you drag/tab/virtually get a file from storage and "insert" it into the renderer. Now you have the content presented very interactive with all the album art as designed by the artist itself - the possibilities here are already almost unlimited. If we think further of the game consoles and all the controlling possibilities at the moment you can thing of very sophisticated solutions here like some kind of A/V entertainment virtual reality...

Am I still awake? :-) - Ok let enjoy the music at the moment and see what’s coming next

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Originally posted by David Dever:

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connectedmediaexperience.org

Still pretty weak on presentation of graphical assets, e.g., liner notes within the specification–not yet ready for prime time (NYRFPT), methinks.

David, this is the beginning I hope - positive to see that the giants in this industry want to go in this direction. Without their support nobody is able to provide and establish meaningful content for the indistry, considering their market share IMO. Apple can do some funny stuff with their hardware / software solutions, but the MEDIA CONTENT (labels, rights, etc.) is in the hands of these companies.

OKli, your future vision is in essence here. OK perhaps not a 'grpahical representation of the equipment' (Although I fail to see the point)

Naims new apps will quite happily control the inputs, volume etc of devices with that their likkle remote connectors on the back.

There are plenty of devices that you can design or use pre loaded layouts to do practically anything.

The only missing piece at the minute is to see album info along side this. This is not far off. Redeye for iphone for instance. With this in mind I don't see the point it 'yet another thing™'

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Originally posted by garyi:
The only missing piece at the minute is to see album info along side this. This is not far off. Redeye for iphone for instance.

Do you mean redeye from ThinkFlood - as far as I can see this is universal remote and I can't find anything related to the topic. Or there is another redeye?

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With this in mind I don't see the point it 'yet another thing™'

Why there are BD on the market even we had DVD? CD and then DVD-A/SACD? Or you mean, that we have to further rip our CDs to FLAC/ALAC/WAVE/... or buy 24/192, 32/xxxx hi res files, getting some PDFs with the downloads, struggle with low-res images not showing correct, looking up google for lyrics, etc. - I don't think this will bring a lot of people from CD to DS. And I don't think this is technical progress in the digital media content, either. Therefore another TM will come sooner or later and I hope that the giants this time will follow similar direction regarding the general standard.

Love the dream ...just don't think it fits the Darwinian world of commerce. Where are the business advantages of a unified approach when a fragmented mishmash of standards allows companies to vie for dominance by offering the often dubious technical advantages implicit in their chosen formats or standards.

It is hard enough getting agreement on HTML 5,
web video standards or heaven forbid an agreement over the successor to USB. At the moment proprietary formats rule because that is where you can add a margin.

This is particularly true where the equipment you are producing has fallen in value to the commodity level. At this point true integration
becomes a disadvantage. After all you don't really want your customers buying from other manufacturers.

Apple is a big beast in the jungle and for the moment will their kit is doing well hifi companies will jump on the bandwagon of their airwatsit in order to drive market share just as they have done with the iPod. Interestingly
they haven't done this out of choice and the rewards for licensing are hardly generous - unless of couse you are Apple.

Would Naim and Linn be focussed on flac if they were producing commodity items instead of high value niche engineering... Probably not so much. They can both make money out the margins of their upmarket products where prices are
controlled and supply regulated by the dealer network.

So lovely dream ... Probably only possible in a
socialist republic where everyone rips their music in flackski to play on their Naim Cosmonaut 120 with their comrades.

Curiously I doubt there would be any discussion about sound quality on the forums.


Comrade Togski

Tog, my point of view is neither political nor commercial. My point of view is of a consumer, who did the step from CD to DS and is experiencing a lot of limitations. Thus, I welcome the effort of the giants in the industry to make some well adopted standard, such as the CD, which I hope will eventually become as popular as the CD format. How they will make profit of it is not my care, but I think they are smart enough to manage this by themselves. And of course I'd like to have a choice, upgrading / building my own system, but I know, that I definitely DON'T want to make my choice because the company A supports format X and company B supports format Y - we already know this game with SACD vs. DVD-A not so long time ago and we all know how this game became a loosing one for both of them... Are you saying that because the CD format is so popular nobody is making money of it? Interesting - I don't have info to argue, but I'm very doubtful about it...

I totally agree that as a consumer the array of different formats can seem a pain but technology is evolving fast and our children's children won't know or care what a CD was anyway.

In any case CD is a distribution format for PCM encoded music data. As such few people stopped making any real money from them the minute computers were able to rip the data and people shared their music online. No surprise really as many of us grew up copying our records to cassette tapes and shared them with friends.

Wav and aiff have been with us for a while as the proprietary ways of handling the PCM data
once it has been ripped off the CD. New codecs will come and go but for the immediate future it seems unlikely that these two will remain popular as the CD is relegated to either bird
scarer or coaster duty.

Don't worry your hi-fi like your TV will still become obsolete the minute you get it home and the corporate giants will continue to care little for your quaint ideas about unifying standards - unless of course they can sell you something that for five minutes at least looks like it will become the next standard...

Everything changes ... Enjoy the music


Tog