UnitiQute + Unitiserve without network?

Posted by: jbua5150 on 06 October 2010

Hello I am a proud new Naim UnitiQute owner and am loving it! It is currently streaming FLAC & M4A via Asset, and wireless performance is acceptable but not rock solid.
I have ordered the UnitiServe and am curious if they can be connected together and communicate with each other, or does there have to be "network" involved? If they can be "hard wired" together wouldn't that yield the most solid performance?
Thanks in advance.
Posted on: 06 October 2010 by Guido Fawkes
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curious if they can be connected together and communicate with each other
Yes through normal S/PDIF - no network required.
Posted on: 06 October 2010 by Aleg
Hello jbua

First of all welcome to the forum and I hope you will enjoy your stay.

I have a very short answer to your question; look at this post from Jan-Erik Nordoen and you might find what you are looking for Connecting Unitiserve & Unitiqute

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aleg
Posted on: 06 October 2010 by jbua5150
hello all and thanks for the replies.

@ ROTF - I think i understand that, but what about metadata? How will the Qute get Artist/Album/Track info?

@ Aleg - When I read your replyI was mad at myself for not reading it, but I had already lol. What I get from that is that a router is required too? I guess I am trying to see what the functionality is of the two devices in the absence of internet service. Can the Qute "see" the Serve when wired to each other with cat5?

Not trying to sound stupid Smile

Also is there no soft power? lol Just mute?
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by garyi
The unitiserve is like a fancy NAS. If you are not going to use it as a NAS then its pointless buying it.
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by jbua5150
The Serve will be used for ripping, Upnp, and transcoding. Are there any NAS that can trancode M4A into WAV? Not pointless. Just was asking what the level of functionality is in the absence of network.
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by Eloise
As people have said, there doesn't need to be a network, but UnitiQute + UnitiServe without a network defeats a lot of the purpose of the combination. Your best route (IMO) would be to pick up a small new (around £50-60) or second hand router - there are lots for sale cheap as people get given new routers with their ISP upgrades. Using a router would enable you to also add in other computers and/or a iPod Touch for control purposes if you wished. Alternatively the pair should work with a Cat5 crossover cable but then you'll have to start setting IP addresses, etc.

As an alternative, have you considered the UnitiServe with a SuperNait? Or with another Naim amp and a DAC?

Eloise
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by garyi
There are plenty of applications on computers that do perfectly good rips, the unitserve is not alone in that respect.

I don't understand why you don't want a network?

Cable is 24 quid for 100 metres.
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by jbua5150
Again thanks for all the feedback. I am and will be using these on a network. I am just curious of what if any are the limitations of the pieces in the absence of a network.
@ Eloise - thanks for explaining that for me. I have not considered SuperNait or other amps or DAC. I just got my Qute last week. This is a smaller set-up in my bedroom.

@ garyi - I have had poor results ripping on my PC. I think there is an issue with the internal wiring of my PC as I get "noise" in my rips. Almost sounds like EMI-RFI. I am most interested in the Serve's ability to transcode.
Most of my library is FLAC, but I have slowly but surely started converting all to M4A for my iPhone. Serve will transcode my M4A into WAV. Saves me a ton of time, and I dont have to leave my PC on all the time.
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by garyi
Heck go spend that 2 grand then Winker
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by Tog
Or you could investigate a Vortexbox appliance - an open source version of the Unitiserve at 25% of the cost. It's not a Naim, it won't be quite as neat but it will rip and store just as well. The remaining £1500 could go towards a power amp ...or some speakers!

Tog
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
or you could get one that just oozes sex appeal
"You know you want me"

as opposed to


"No sex please, we're British"
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by jbua5150
@ Tog - Vortexbox does not transcode M4A into WAV or LPCM does it?

@ Jan-Erik Nordoen - LOL!! what is the top piece? I agree it does "ooze" sex appeal. The Serve will cosmetically match my Qute better than whatever that one is. lol
Posted on: 07 October 2010 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
It's actually a client, not a server (apologies) from A-Tech Fabrication. Here's one of their NAS devices, that's just screaming for a green logo Big Grin

Posted on: 08 October 2010 by Eloise
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Originally posted by Jan-Erik Nordoen:
It's actually a client, not a server (apologies) from A-Tech Fabrication. Here's one of their NAS devices, that's just screaming for a green logo Big Grin

No reason you couldn't install Vortex box, or Windows and Asset on such a box. Do A-tech sell full systems or just the cases?


from HD Plex is similar and much cheeper than the A-Tech Fabrication box.

Eloise
Posted on: 08 October 2010 by garyi
All these devices look like heat sinks with feet.
Posted on: 08 October 2010 by Eloise
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
All these devices look like heat sinks with feet.

I think they are meant to!

Having said all this (and an additional thought) ... a lot of these boxes don't cost much less than a UnitiServe... from atechfabrications (the picture posted by Jan-Erik Nordoen) a system built with a slot loading CD starts at $1900 plus options. And the UnitiServe is totally plug and play! And does more (local digital output).

Eloise
Posted on: 08 October 2010 by james n
Thought it looked familiar...

Posted on: 08 October 2010 by Eloise
quote:
Originally posted by james n:
Thought it looked familiar...


ROTF LMAO
Posted on: 08 October 2010 by Phil Harris
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Originally posted by ROTF:
quote:
curious if they can be connected together and communicate with each other
Yes through normal S/PDIF - no network required.


Not quite I'm afraid - you *COULD* do that and just pipe S/PDIF into the Uniti but you'd have no two way comms ... far better to use wired networking as teh UnitiServe needs an internet connection to get its lookups anyway.

Cheers

Phil
Posted on: 08 October 2010 by jbua5150
@ Phil Harris - Thanks for the reply. So they cannot operate together with metadata ect., without a network?
All feedback is greatly appreciated.