DVD 5 "Bug"

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Originally posted by HiDefBob:
Has anyone experienced this "bug" ...

You finish watching a DVD movie. You stop the DVD but do not remove it because you want to watch the extra features on another evening. You press OFF on the remote. It turns off (you leave the switch on the back ON).

A short while later you notice that the DVD 5 has turn itself back on, so you press OFF again. But, about 30 seconds later it turns itself back on. You can continue to press OFF, but it will just turn itself back on every time.

The only way to stop this from happening is to flip the power switch on the back to off. Now if you flip the switch back on, the unit will not power up again on its own.

Bob

I have that bug but only sometimes with DVD-RW or +RW (I don't remember). If I change the disc, everything's fine again.


By the way, I have a more annoying bug, after listenning to a CD, if I put a DVD-RW or +RW (don't remember again), sometimes, the DVD5 is stuck, it doesn't recognises the DVD. The only way to make it run again is to turn it off with the back switch. The way to avoid the bug is to turn the DVD5 off between the change from CD to DVD.

Bob,

I have this one too.

The easiest way of stopping it is to press open on the remote. The disc will eject and be reloaded then it will switch itself back to standby automatically.

It seems to be very specific discs it does it with.

You may also find that when it is supposedly on, you get no sound or picture.

Hope that helps getting round having to power cycle it.

Steve.

Forgot one :

Sometimes when watching a DVD, If ever I "rewind" I loose the sound ... I have to stop the movie then re-play for the sound to come back.

The bug disappears turning the DVD5 off/on with the back switch.

... what about a front switch a la Reference for the next DVD5 upgrade ?

What firmware are you running?

Earlier than current rev had this issue

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Originally posted by AV@naim:
What firmware are you running?

Earlier than current rev had this issue

Hi AV@naim,

I have also noticed losing sound after a going back on a DVD, as karyboue mentions. I am running DVD5 firmware c01.01 m00.07, c2.6.6.112. What is the latest version available? Is it possible to download any updates?

Thanks,
Mark.

That is latest revision. Have not noticed this on mine since latest firmware. Will look into this tommorow at base.

incidently:-
-what disc (title)?
-what decode mode is disc (5.1/2.0)?
-what audio output (analogue/digital)?
-does it ever do it in FFWD?

if you would rather deal direct, mail me via adam:- info@naim-audio.com

Thanks AV. I recall it happened with "Once Upon A Time In America" (Region 1 disk) on Dolby Digital, decode mode Auto (in 3/2.1), digital output. I'll do some more specific testing later and will get back to you.

Thanks,
Mark.

I presume you are using an AV2 also?

if so:-

-does the av2 display the correct decode mode when there is no sound.

-if you pause/unpause film, does the sound return?

Hi AV@naim,

I also have the last firmware that I applied myself with my dealer's discs and I use an AV2 (that my dealer sends you, probably on wednesday, because it has always refused every upgrade even after having "visited" l'Audiodistribution this winter).

To me, the sound bug is "activated" when playing recorded DVDs of TV shows with my Sony RDR-GX3 (I use Sony +RW and -RW). Next time that it happens, I'll check for what you asked because I don't remember.
I think that chapter jumps are ok but fast rewind or forward can make the sound stop and never come back except if you stop the DVD and play it again (fortunately it remembers where it stopped). When that bug starts, it does it on every DVDs original or recorded. I don't know about CDs as I don't REW or FF the titles.


Now I face another problem after having cleaned my shelves, so unplugged and moved every box.
When my DVD5 is linked to the AV2 in digital (chord signature) and analog (Naim Din), I have a slight horizontal instability, like a very light flashing of horizontal lines in very clear scenes (I use 5 BNC RGBHV on a VGA TV). When I disconnect the analog Naim Din cable, the flashing stops ...
I thought of an earth trouble or loop but I re-plugged everything as it was ...

quote:

Originally posted by AV@naim:
I presume you are using an AV2 also?

if so:-

-does the av2 display the correct decode mode when there is no sound.

-if you pause/unpause film, does the sound return?

Hi AV,

I've tested across two, region one disks: Once Upon A Time In America and The Big Lebowski, both Dolby Digital 5.1. Connection was digital co-ax (both digital inputs in the AV2 tested), with the AV2 set to "AUTO" mode.

When using both forward and reverse keys, the sound disappears and the AV2 flashes the last mode selected when having this "quiet moment" (using the "mode" key you can cycle through the modes MONO, STEREO, MUSIC, MOVIE, NEO6C and NEO6M at this time). So, no, the AV2 does not display the correct decode mode when there is no sound.

Pressing STOP, then PLAY restored the AV2 to AUTO mode and 3/2.1 is displayed.

Pressing PAUSE twice also restored the AV2 to AUTO mode and 3/2.1 is displayed.

This also happened on a DTS soundtrack, although the testing was not as thorough.

The firmware version displayed for the AV2 is AVc106 F658.

On a side note for the DVD5: when doing this testing, I noticed that, when using the PAUSE/PAUSE method to get the sound back, the DVD5 has a moment of brief speed up in playback before settling down to the normal speed. This is only if the last key pressed prior to the PAUSE was reverse or forward. If you subsequently use PAUSE when in normal play, the replay speed is normal.

Thanks,
Mark.

Mark,
your answer is slightly ambiguous, maybe I didn't explain correctly:-

When you fast forward/rewind a DVD, the audio stream is muted (usually in any DVD player). This means the AV2 will lose SPDIF lock and display the last decode mode until it gets a valid stream from the player (when the film is resumed). This is how it should work.

If you are rewinding, then play is pressed (filmed resumed) and you get no audio are you getting a valid 3/2.1 stream then?

My problème is not an earth loop, wanting to listen to a CD, my DVD5 outputs no more sound via the DIN when playing CDs

I reseted the player using clear (at start it even refused any reset I had to switch it off/on on the back).
It outputs CD sound on the cinch outputs.
And I checked that all my AV2 DIN inputs work.

I hope I won't have to send the 2 units back to UK but I delay the invoice of my AV2 until I have some more infos about my new problem.
I can't believe it.

As far as I recall the din L+R is connected directly to the cinch L+R.

Check the din lead is not faulty

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Originally posted by AV@naim:
As far as I recall the din L+R is connected directly to the cinch L+R.

Check the din lead is not faulty

Just got back home, tested with an other cable and you're right it works. What a relief ! Thanks
I wonder how I could break a Naim interconnect ??? Is there somewhere around some Naim-extra-spiritual forces trying to push me towards a Hi-Line ???

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Originally posted by AV@naim:
Mark,
your answer is slightly ambiguous, maybe I didn't explain correctly:-

When you fast forward/rewind a DVD, the audio stream is muted (usually in any DVD player). This means the AV2 will lose SPDIF lock and display the last decode mode until it gets a valid stream from the player (when the film is resumed). This is how it should work.

If you are rewinding, then play is pressed (filmed resumed) and you get no audio are you getting a valid 3/2.1 stream then?

Apologies for the ambiguity. *After* rewinding/forwarding and *then* pressing play, there is no sound i.e. during resumed playback. The mode displayed on the AV2 at this time is not 3/2.1 but one of MONO, STEREO, MUSIC, MOVIE, NEO6C, NEO6M (and you can cycle through these modes). If you then hit either STOP/PLAY or PAUSE/PAUSE, the valid 3/2.1 mode is restored with AUTO mode.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Originally posted by Mark R:

quote:

Originally posted by AV@naim:
Mark,
your answer is slightly ambiguous, maybe I didn't explain correctly:-

When you fast forward/rewind a DVD, the audio stream is muted (usually in any DVD player). This means the AV2 will lose SPDIF lock and display the last decode mode until it gets a valid stream from the player (when the film is resumed). This is how it should work.

If you are rewinding, then play is pressed (filmed resumed) and you get no audio are you getting a valid 3/2.1 stream then?

Apologies for the ambiguity. *After* rewinding/forwarding and *then* pressing play, there is no sound i.e. during resumed playback. The mode displayed on the AV2 at this time is not 3/2.1 but one of MONO, STEREO, MUSIC, MOVIE, NEO6C, NEO6M (and you can cycle through these modes). If you then hit either STOP/PLAY or PAUSE/PAUSE, the valid 3/2.1 mode is restored with AUTO mode.

Thanks,
Mark.

That's exactly that, perfectly explained.
I won't be able to test anything as my AV2 is gone today for Salisbury. Hope the repair will be fast because my dealer could only lend me a Cairn HiFi préamp