I'm normal

Posted by: Fisbey on 10 March 2005

Well, Doctor Bruce was right my blood tests came back normal - no thyroid, kidney, liver or diabetes problem. But I'm still getting very hot and itchy and also feeling very tired.

I've tried different washing powders and have even tried new bedclothes etc, but still the problem persists.

Apart from it being connected to smoking cessation (and my continued use of nicotine gum which I'm reducing) does anyone else have any ideas?
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
De-louse the dog? The wife?

Seriously-do you take any medicines, either OTC or prescribed? One common cause. Huge multitude of other possible reasons though.

May be related to smoking cessation actually, I've seen people describe itching amongst other things (including fatigue, muscle pains, sweating, poor sleep) when stopping cigs. It is a drug you are withdrawing from.

Bruce
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Fisbey
Don't have a dog and the cats don't have fleas!

The only 'drug' I use is a one a day St Johns Wort.

I think I'll see how I feel once I've completely stopped using the gum - really shouldn't still be using it - nearly a year since I last had a ciggie...

Also there may be a 'mental' element, but I have to say in all honesty I don't feel particularly anxious or depressed these days.

Oh and I don't have a wife either!
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
St Johns Wort may cause rashes/itch, especially with sun exposure. SJW is a drug, no apostophes! Just because it comes from a health shop does not make it less potentially toxic. (this is a bit of a bugbear of mine).
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Deane F
If you went away for more than a few days and the itching continued then perhaps you could safely rule out something in your home environment. That might narrow it down?
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by NB
Fisbey,

May I ask whether you swim or go to the gym?

Regards

Nigel
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Fisbey
No, neither - I walk a fair bit but that's about it...

Maybe time to start?
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by NB
I had something similar which I swear was caused by the chlorine being to strong in my gym's swimming pool. Its not as bad as it was thre years ago but I still suffer.

Another thing that irritates my skin is having the central heating up too high.

I never got to the bottom of my skin problem but I think its a cause of modern living, chemicals in washing powder, in swimming pools etc.

I also find that having a mainly organic diet helps as well,

good luck I hope you get it sorted.

Regards

NB
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Rasher
Diet matey! How healthy is your diet?
You sound like you are possibly lacking iron or zinc. Don't go for the vitimin pills, but have a month of really healty eating of fresh produce, avoiding too much meat, fat, dairy etc. Eat fresh fish. Breakfast could be museli with fresh fruit (banana, strawberrys), orange juice instead of milk, and maybe a small dollop of natural youghut on top if you want it. That's what I have.
Limit coffee to a good belter in the morning and then decaff onwards. Walk whenever you get the chance to. Try to get 8 hours sleep a night too. Spring & summer is coming, and it will all help.
Good luck.
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Deane F
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
St Johns Wort may cause rashes/itch, especially with sun exposure. SJW is a drug, no apostophes! Just because it comes from a health shop does not make it less potentially toxic. (this is a bit of a bugbear of mine).


Looks like the easiest and best place to start.
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
I'm not a doctor but i think that a sudden smoking cessation could be the cause of a general state of light illness.
I'm tryin' to stop smokin as well and evenif i'm use to smoke very light cigarettes first days of abstention gave me a "cleaner" head but a sense of tiredness i couldn't explain.

Take care

Gianluigi
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
I'm not a doctor but i think that a sudden smoking cessation could be the cause of a general state of light illness.
I'm tryin' to stop smokin as well and even if i'm use to smoke very light cigarettes first days of abstention gave me a "cleaner" head but a sense of tiredness i couldn't explain.

Take care

Gianluigi


You'll get over it. The first seven years are the worst. Then it's all downhill.

I'd be weaning myself off the fags chewing gum Fisbey. How do you expect to quit if you constantly remind your body that you're still addicted? Be a man and face the awful truth. You are addicted to nicotine for the next ten years. Every chew is delaying the start of that countdown. Become a born-again ex-smoker and annoy the hell out of your friends and relations with endless tirades against the dreaded weed.

Nime
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
[/QUOTE]You'll get over it. The first seven years are the worst. Then it's all downhill.[/QUOTE]

Fiuuuuuuuuuuu!
Nime, my dear superhero!
Seven years is a march across the Sahara desert!
hehehehheheheheheeh
Damn that morning, 23 years ago, when my good friend Paolo put a M#####boro in my mouth!
Anyway i'll get there!
At least i hope.

Exactly in this moment i'm thinking that i could have one before going to bed................. Frown

Thanks for solidarity!
Posted on: 10 March 2005 by Aric
It's the damn weather! England's been bloody cold lately, right?

Cold weather makes me tired, lethargic, and pretty much dread getting out of bed. You could also have dry skin, especially if it's been very cold with very low humidity.

Seriously, back in early December we got an extreme bout of cold weather that had very low humidity - around 15% or something - and I got really dry skin on the backs of my thighs and the itch KILLED me. I mean it was God awful and I couldn't figure out what the problem was. I almost went to the doctor because of how strong the itch was and the length for which it persisted.

Thankfully, I figured that not using soap on the area in conjuction with a really good lotion was just the ticket I needed. It eventually cleared.

Didn't help with not wanting to get out of bed though.

The only thing that really works for that is my hi-fi.
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Fisbey
I think it's a number of things to be honest, so I've given myself some things to do;

Stop the nicotine gum over the next 2 or 3 weeks - I've already cut right down.

Eat more vegetables - I eat a lot of fruit currently.

Cut down on the coffee...

Get outside more - more gardening and walking.

Moan about things less...

Drink more water.

Enroll for a cookery class after Easter.

Clean out the loft thoroughly after the roof's replaced (week after next)

Take out my bedroom carpets and put down clean rugs.

That should do for a month or two!

Thanks for the responses by the way.
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Mick P
Fisby

You do not need to moan less. I moan all the time and am extremely healthy.

Moaning about plebs makes one feel good and as such is beneficial to your health.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Deane F
quote:
Originally posted by Mick Parry:

Moaning about plebs makes one feel good and as such is beneficial to your health.



Mick

If you're not a pleb then what are you.

Are you one of the ruling class? Or have you worked for your money?

Deane
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Deane F
I ask merely for information.
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Chunny Nochubb
I think you have made a good list Fisbey, although it might be worth getting someone else to clear out the roof if you wish to avoid dust.
Funny thing skin complaints and fatigue because everyone looks for reasons why they start and usually can’t find them. You do things to make you feel better (such as giving up smoking) and you feel worse. So stress is often cited as a major factor – caffeine is bad for stress – I gave it up last year and have noticed some benefits, including digestion – apparently the short term benefits from the caffeine fix are outweighed by the fatigue caused when they wear off and there is also the stress of waiting for the next cup and/or chocolate bar.

I bought the book by Dr. Gillian McKeith, which accompanies the TV series “You are what you eat”, I found it interesting because in her opinion it is not only what you eat and drink but when you eat it that is important – for instance she does not recommend eating fruit directly after meals.
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Nime
I'm more worried about Mick than anyone here.
He shows such poorly-disguised aggression that one wonders about the health of his ego.

Dismissing others (even by the use of "in" derogatory terms) is often a sign of internal conflict.

Some people choose the worst thing imaginable to themselves and then set these "nightmare scenarios" up as targets for abuse. One discovers later that the outspoken "gay-bashers" are in fact closet homosexuals. (purely as an example Mick) Winker

Learn to like "others" more. You will feel so much better about yourself. Anger and hatred are often reciprocated. Both internally and externally. Try wearing a smile one day. Then wear a frown all the next day. Make comparisons with others' behaviour towards your visible outward expression of mood.

Insecurity about oneself (or one's roots) often means one throws up a hostile front to hide your true feelings (and facts) that would otherwise be clearly portrayed for all to see.

Bullies are a clear example of the insecure thrashing about in a sea of frustration. Externalising their anger and revulsion with their own lot means they choose mirror targets of their own inner-self on which to unleash their anger. When they would be far better off changing their own behaviour.

It is but a small step from bullying and target selection to racism and genocide. (I quote a psychologist discussing bullying and war crimes on the radio only this week)

As a colleague says (when the bantering becomes too near the knuckle): "Be nice!" Smile

Nime
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Mick P
Nime

Thank you for the physcho analysis but I am fine.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
Lay off!

Mick has always seemed one of the best adjusted folk on the forum. He is one of the most consistent and seems entirely at ease with himself.

Good luck to the man.
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by cunningplan
quote:
Nime

Thank you for the physcho analysis but I am fine.

Regards

Mick


Yes Nime leave it to the experts. Winker
And yes Mick you are fine Winker

Regards
Clive
Posted on: 11 March 2005 by Nime
Drat! Big Grin

Nime
Posted on: 13 March 2005 by oldie
Thank goodnes I was away this weekend.
Oldie.