The format became irrelevant

Posted by: NigelP on 24 September 2001

After the hifi show I bought "Daisies of the Galaxy" by Eels. Normally when I listen to a CD I usually end up wondering what the vinyl would sound like. I don't know what this is like on vinyl (nor do I care wink ). This is the first time that I have put a CD on from start to finish and just listened to the music. I never once thought about the vinyl thing and just enjoyed and enjoyed and enjoyed. This CD was introduced to me by Naim at the Novotel show (wasnt't a disaster after all big grin ) - thanks lads - and it is quite definitely the best piece of musical genious, superbly recorded and wonderfully mastered CD I have ever heard. Even the track "It's a Motherf**k**" (listed to with aprehension) is a feat of tackling a tricky issue in a very inventive and honest way. If you don't have this - then go and get it now. I have one question, though, what other similar material is as beautifully crafted. I have the Jazz classics but I am looking for some acoustic guitar, drums that sound like, well, drums really, piano and honest simple material. Look for to your input for someone who is desperate to "dump the crap" and listen to my machine with something that it was made for.

Regards,

Nigel

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Mike Hanson
Yes, "Daisies" is a great album. Their other two albums are also good, although "Electro-Shock Blues" has a rather depressing air.

I would describe Eels as "intelligent pop with a wry edge". With this description in mind, let me offer the following as possibility opportunities for your listening pleasure:


  • Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast
  • The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
  • Super Furry Animals - Rings Around the World
  • Elliott Smith - Figure 8
  • The Sugarplastic - Bang, The Earth is Round
  • Tripping Daisy - Jesus Hits like an Atom Bomb
  • XTC - Anything, starting with "Black Sea"

These vary a bit with musical style and recording quality, but they're all top notch. I included the ones I did, because they all press similar buttons in me. (i.e. When I want to listen to one of these, I can usually appreciate any other.)

I've probably got more that I could include, but this was a quick list off the top of my head. Let me know if you would like me to continue.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Tony L
quote:
I have the Jazz classics but I am looking for some acoustic guitar, drums that sound like, well, drums really, piano and honest simple material.

The Eels album is a stunner, as are the other two, and there is a new one out very soon (I heard a track the other day). Excellent stuff.

As for simple acoustic stuff, I am currently addicted to 'Quiet is the new loud' by Kings of Convenience. This is a simply stunning recording - what you get is a couple of people playing acoustic guitars (incredibly well) and singing right there in the room with you. Has minimal drums and trumpet in places too. A fabulous album, that manages to totally avoid sounding twee, folky, or clichéd. The first thing I played on my new CDX.

Tony.

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Hammerhead
New album is out today - it's called SoulJacker I believe. As for KOC, every person I've played this too has bought a copy - I ought to be their promoter! A true classic - but don't tell anyone wink

Steve

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Mike Hanson
I was tired last night, so I didn't manage to register all of your message. In light of this, let me revise my list somewhat.

If you don't want extreme (noisy?) production, eliminate The Flaming Lips, Super Furry Animals, and Tripping Daisy.

Add to the list The Brothers Creeggan (http://brotherscreeggan.com). I highly recommend all of their albums.

I'll check for more later. Sorry for the original misread.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by von zipper
But the new Flanagan Ep is stunning for it's 'in the room ' production(to my ears anyway).If you like folk/country/world/blues/rock, give it a try(its kinda hard to categorize wink )He's the guitar player for the Jools Holland big band-heard a session on Paul Jones' radio 2 prog a while back which was superb.An album is on the way.
Posted on: 24 September 2001 by woodface
Try the 'new' Divine Comedy release 'Regeneration' this is very clever very well recorded quality pop music. It's their best yet as Neil Hannon has finally shed his 'arch' character.
Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Greg Beatty
I wrestled with how to say this without sounding like a troll, which I am not.

An obsrevation:

This thread reads like a group of audiophiles choosing their next music purchase based on the sound quality of the disk.

Am I alone in finding statements like:

quote:

This is the first time that I have put a CD on
from start to finish and just listened to the music.

disturbing?

And I'm not picking on you Nigel - the statement just seems a tad extreme and unfortunate.

This thread reminds me of TCs thread on the other forum about only playing one side of a record and not having interest in going on to side two.

*Preach Mode On*

The best change you can make is the one that rids you of your self-consciousness about the sound.

*Preach Mode Off*

OK - flame away.

- GregB

Insert Witty Signature Line Here

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Hammerhead
Seeing as it's in the Music thread, I think it's more like a collection of music lovers. No mention of M*na, Fraim or anything else used for tweaking the musical reproduction here.

Steve

Just the tunes man!

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by Thomas K
Nigel,

“God damn right, it’s a beautiful …” album. There’s something about it that makes me think of it as (dare I say it) a concept album, but without the associated tediousness.

I find the cover adds to the experience. Take, for instance, “Jeannie’s Diary”: From beginning to end, this song is hard on the verge of kitsch, both in terms of the music as well as the lyrics. Never once is any sort of irony displayed, the illusion remains intact. Together with the cover however, which is entirely over the top, you have a framework that marks the entire content as potentially ironic. It is wholly exemplary of our times, in which form is often disassociated from content (e.g. Che Guevara T-shirts, worn by teens who barely know the name).

Oh goodness, I feel a surge of intellectualism coming on. Oh … no … it’s passed (I was only pretending).

Thomas

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by mr saucisson
There's a piece about Eels and E in yesterdays Sunday Times, for those UK based. Might also be on the web.

Daisies of the galaxy was my recent discovery, it has rarely been off repeat. Especially Tiger in my tank!

Ben

Posted on: 24 September 2001 by JohnS
I am guessing that people who like the Eels may also like Grant Lee Buffalo. I particularly liked Fuzzy and Might Joe Moon and I wondered if anyone had Grant-Lee Phillips' solo album and what it was like.

-John

Posted on: 25 September 2001 by Tony L
quote:
There is also an Internet-only live album (Oh What A Beautiful Morning)which is again worth the money - the sort of album that makes me want to get off my butt and go and see them live.

Good call! I have just ordered it, postage is a bit steep though. I will investigate the early albums too, I never realised they existed.

Tony.

Posted on: 25 September 2001 by NigelP
I bought the Elliot Smith album today and its another stunner. Got Badly Drawn Boy and it's good but I can't stop playing Daisy's of the Galaxy - Oh what bliss!

Greg,

This is not a bragathon - I'm even careful not to mention what I'm playing this on. It's taken me about 15 years to get a CD player and I have a very extensive and high quality vinyl collection. I have spent a great deal of money on my system and I am disappointed by the amount of junk out there. There's good music and poor recording abound and I find that I just don't play it. In fact, when I get something that is poorly reproduced it goes back since I don't want to pay the record industry for not doing their job properly frown . Hope you can understand where I'm coming from .

Regards,

Nigel razz

Posted on: 25 September 2001 by Mike Hanson
quote:
I bought the Elliot Smith album today and its another stunner. Got Badly Drawn Boy and it's good but I can't stop playing Daisy's of the Galaxy - Oh what bliss!

I'm glad that you're enjoying them. There's nothing as much fun as discovering a good CD. As my best friend said when I introduced him to Super Furry Animals, "This is very special music!"

I really feel sorry for my friend. He's plays CDs with a DVD player, a 30 year old receiver passed down from his Dad, and a pair of Bose 301 speakers leaning back on a metal bracket on the floor. His wife can't stand it when he turns it up. (She said she's going to kill someone if she has to listen to Radiohead on another Saturday morning.) I couldn't resist lending him my best pair of headphones.

Every few weeks we get together to jam on piano and bass (we swap instruments throughout). We also take breaks and listen to lots of music. I love the look on his face when I'm playing something for him that really blows him away. Pure pleasure!

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Posted on: 26 September 2001 by Paul Stephenson
Grows on you this as does Matthew Day which led me back to Paul Brady, Hard Station and more recently
Spirits Colliding.