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Maybe it does, i dont know. Never tried it.

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Originally posted by Aleg:

I believe this depends a bit on what you have done with the (pre-)gaps while ripping.

Best practice is, I believe, to rip with adding gaps to the previous track and also rip the pre-gap of the first track or hidden tracks to separate tracks.

This way you should have all the information that is present on the disc.
If you let the ripper also make a cue files based on all these separate tracks I believe it should be possible to recreate the original disk.

Correct.

Hello,

Following your suggestions, I switched recently from Windows Media Player to Foobar200, and I am very satisfied, especially because I have many Flac files which I can now hear on my Uniti.

However I have a problem to retrieve my files sorted on the Uniti. I can sort them by codecs, folders or album, but not by genre, and I cannot find why.

Here is the MediaLibraryTree I use :


<MediaLibraryTree>
<SubTree label="Albums">
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">%album%[ '['%album artist%']']</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Artists">
<spec type="object.container.person.musicArtist">%artist%</spec>
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">%album%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Album Artists">
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">[%album artist% - ]['['%date%']' ]%album%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Genre">
<spec type="object.container.genre.musicGenre">%genre%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Years">
<spec>%date%</spec>
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">[%album artist% - ]%album%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Compilations" query="compilation PRESENT">
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">[%album artist% - ]%album%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Codecs">
<spec>%codec%</spec>
<spec type="object.container.album.musicAlbum">[%album artist% - ]%album%</spec>
</SubTree>
<SubTree label="Folders" type="filesystem"/>
</MediaLibraryTree>

When I am selecting "Genre" on the Uniti, it displays only "vide" (empty in french).

Could someone help me ?

Thanks in advance

Philippe

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Originally posted by Aleg:

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Originally posted by AMA:
Patrick, I thought generating a cue from multi-track flac gives the same cue as original Never tried this though ....

I believe this depends a bit on what you have done with the (pre-)gaps while ripping.

Best practice is, I believe, to rip with adding gaps to the previous track and also rip the pre-gap of the first track or hidden tracks to separate tracks.

This way you should have all the information that is present on the disc.
If you let the ripper also make a cue files based on all these separate tracks I believe it should be possible to recreate the original disk.

But I also have not tried to recreate the disc and compare it to an image rip of the same disc.

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aleg

I have used the freeware program CUETools to recreate an image from separate files and a cue file. The result was an image file that was positively verified against the accuraterip database so it must be working fine then

-
aleg

Philippe,

You might want to start your own topic with your post above. This is a Uniti question, not a Foobar question. Anyone not using or caring about Foobar will most likely not have even seen your post.

-Patrick

Patrick,

Do you know if there is a working combination of the DarkOne and httpcontrol. I'm trying to get it so I can use a browser on my laptop to control foobar (with DarkOne) on another machine. I'm using RDP at the moment but want to try a browser.

I downloaded foo_httpcontrol_data but when trying to use it says no templates found, so I download some templates but cant browse to the index page and I was wondering if its because I'm using the DarkOne....what do you think?

Thanks

Jack

Jack,

http control will work fine with darkone. totally independent.

Its been a while since I used it though. Let me remember how I used to do it.

But your http controller wont look like dark one unless you format a template to do so.



-patrick

Patrick,

Thanks, not a major problem as I've found a way round what I wanted to do but if you do remember might be useful for the future

Cheers

Jack

Hello Patrick and everybody...

I have two different questions:

1-Foobar and winamp

Th actual version of winamp has an included plugin to import/export the media library database in an .XML file.
This feature is mainly oriented toward i-tunes.

Is there a way to import such a file in foobar?
Actually I test the storage of my Cd library in wav files.
(the second step will be a Nas or Nasrip or UnitiServe... but this is another discussion...)
As you probably know (of course) PCM wav file cannot store a lot o metadata.
I can add additional information in winamp.
These information should be stored in the library database of winamp. So I hope to get these additional informations in foobar.
(Eventually can I make this kind of additional datas directly in foobar?

2- Foobar and Uniti

I've installed the UPnP/DLNA Renderer, Server, Control Point plugin made by bubbleguuum
(http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_upnp)

This plugin work well. (there is a specific support Linn Ds product)

From the uniti menu I can found all the folders (actually stored in my PC) and stream them.

This plugin (as standard UPnp software) run a server a browser and a control Point (Controller)

When I start foobar and my uniti the first time, the controller show "buffering... in the status line of the renderer device (uniti)

I can play a track directly from my Pc on the uniti! and stop it.
But after that i cannot play anymore a tracks.
The status is mentioned as "stopped"
(I can stream a tracks from the uniti)

A similar behavior is with the mute function but in this case all streaming from the UPnp server is "muted" even if launched from the Uniti... (The uniti is NOT muted as if I've pushed the mute button on it.
I have to relaunch foobar...

This plugin is amazing as basic remote control for the uniti.
Is there anyone here to comment my test? (confirm what I've tested...)

(just for info the "controller" indicate from the renderer properties the Uniti capabilities: playback, volume.

(th embedded version of these components especially the controller seems not fully compatible with the "darkone" skin)

I haven't found other UPnp plugin for foobar and I don't know if we can ask the maker of the plugin mentioned above to improve it for a perfect work with Naim product (as It seems to be with Linn...)

Another solution could be if Naim make a standalone UPnp software to be used with Naim line... ah ah

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Th actual version of winamp has an included plugin to import/export the media library database in an .XML file.
This feature is mainly oriented toward i-tunes.

Is there a way to import such a file in foobar?

Not that I know of, a post at Hydrogen Audio should bring an answer.

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2- Foobar and Uniti

I dont have any experience with the Uniti, sorry.

-patrick

Thank you very much Patrick

1- I've searched at Hydrogen audio.
I've found this http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/f...ndex.php/t71536.html

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Importing to foobar: iTunes and Winamp (through ML Import-Export) can export to iTunes Library XML format, but Songbird does not support exporting of media at this time. I know only one way how that can be done with foobar and that is with Masstager action: Input data (one line per track) Exported media library (in iTunes XML format) have field "Location", which can be used as a sort field to match foobar playlist items sorted by %path%: 1. Make playlist that matches exported library content (if that is ALL media library than it is easier) and sort it by %path% 2. Open exported XML file with your favourite editor and strip all fields that aren't needed except "Location" and of course desired fields (f.e. Genre, Rating, Play Count etc) and then sort it by "Location" field 3. In Masstager select "Input data (one line per track)", add Scheme pattern and paste the appropriate data in "Input data" field This may seem complicated explaining but trying would be hopefully easier

well, it's a little bit tedious especially point 2 (xml file edition...)

But I will try this to see if I get acceptable results.

I hope to be able to report back my results...

2-UPnp server/controller
I'm searching for a discussion here or elsewhere about good software eventually able to control a renderer like the uniti...
Let me know if you find something...

Jean-Luc

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2-UPnp server/controller
I'm searching for a discussion here or elsewhere about good software eventually able to control a renderer like the uniti...
Let me know if you find something...

The only Upnp-ing I have done was with Foobar streaming to iPhone into the DAC.

I was seeing if this was a viable option to set up a streaming element and ditch the PC in my listening room.

Once I got the settings correct in Foobar, and it wasn't transcoding, everything went smoothly.

Once I realized that it cant stream hires i lost all interest.

-Patrick

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good software eventually able to control a renderer like the uniti

Why not the Naim iPhone/Pad/Touch app? That is how I would roll. If I had a Uniti or Serve or Qute, I would most likely ditch Foobar and live with an inferior UI.

Or would I????

Now that I really think about it, I guess I would still want to use Foobar.

OK, lets delve into your question #2 a little deeper. If it is not a Uniti issue I think I can try to help.

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I can play a track directly from my Pc on the uniti! and stop it.
But after that i cannot play anymore a tracks.
The status is mentioned as "stopped"
(I can stream a tracks from the uniti)

Can you clarify this some more? Are you stopping playback on the Uniti? Are you selecting the track with the UNiti or Foobar?

We can get to the bottom of this. I am surprised no other Uniti owners aren't chiming in.

-Patrick

Well, now I can say that asset control (from the makers of DBpoweramp) has a similar behavior...
see also this discussion:
https://forums.naimaudio.com/ev...2903417/m/9842922437

Here is the procedure:

1 I start the uniti (power on on the rear pannel)
2 I start the PC and launch Foobar
3 I set the uniti on the UPnp mode (I've configured the "pc" button of my remote control to do this directly
The display panel of the uniti show the UPnp server available (in this case I've only the foobar Upnp server but all servers are displayed according to the server launched on the network)
4 The Upnp controller windows show the uniti as available renderer and the status is indicated "buffering..."
5 In fooobar album list I choose one and with a right click on it I go to "UPnP controller > Play on uniti-6139" (the name of my device)
Imediately the tracks is played on the uniti!
6 I stop the playing from the Upnp controller windows (this windows present similar buttons than the standard player panel
The uniti stop the music.

and after that the controller pannel show a "stopped" status for the uniti.
It's now impossible to make anything from this panel.
(all the features from the uniti remote control and firmware are available)

I've also seen my uniti in a kind of a mute mode for UPNP and I-radio after playing with the volume cursor...
I have to reset the power of the uniti...
Writing this (my uniti plays the i-radio) i've played with this cursor and... the uniti cut the sound for a short time (less than one second)... !!!??

I'm not able to reproduce this now...

This software definitively produce strange behavior on the uniti...

JLD

Where I can find the Iphone app from Naim.
(I'havn't any apple products here...)

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5 In fooobar album list I choose one and with a right click on it I go to "UPnP controller > Play on uniti-6139" (the name of my device)
Imediately the tracks is played on the uniti! Smile

Maybe this is the issue. Cant you simply play as you would if you weren't sending via upnp? I don't remember treating playback any differently.

I would also guess that you can only control from one side or the other.

RE your last comment.... buy a used iTouch and you can use it as a remote for Foobar or use PlugPlayer to control either Foobar or the Uniti. Then when the Uniti Naim app is available (might already be), you can try that and ditch Foobar altogether.

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Maybe this is the issue. Cant you simply play as you would if you weren't sending via upnp? I don't remember treating playback any differently.

I would also guess that you can only control from one side or the other.

Thanks Patrick for your response.
Actually I can control any other renderer (software) available from UPnP foobar
In example if I launch Twonky manager (trial period 30 days.
I can make the following things:
(given there is in this case 2 servers UPnP and 3 renderers one hardware: the uniti, and two software ("TM player" and "foobar2000 renderer") ...)

1- from Foobar UPnP I can play a track in foobar player or in TM player in this last case all features available from the UPnP controller in foobar work (play stop, volume, pause etc..
I can also see the playing in Twonky
All work fine...

2- I can play a track in foobar (foobar renderer) from Twonky
In this case all is inversed logically.
Twonky control completely foobar (even if controls in foobar are alos available)

These two situations work as expected.

JLD

My statement should have been "I would also guess that you should only control from one side or the other."

Glad it is working.

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Originally posted by pcstockton:
My statement should have been "I would also guess that you should only control from one side or the other."

Glad it is working.

Yes all work fine except the control of the uniti from a control point UPnP... and of course this what I want...

JLD,

Sorry for my confusion. I dont fully understand Upnp apparently.

So you cannot control from the Uniti side of things?

Sorry I cant help more.

-Patrick

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Originally posted by pcstockton:
JLD,

Sorry for my confusion. I dont fully understand Upnp apparently.

So you cannot control from the Uniti side of things?

Sorry I cant help more.

-Patrick

Thank you Patrick
I will try to be very clear:
The uniti (with built in menu and the remote control provided with the device) CAN read file localized on the PC with a UPnP server installed.

But the UPnP control point software (tested) CANNOT command the uniti from the PC.

As this is over the questions about foobar (even if with foobar UPnP, foobar in concerned by this discussion) I suggest to continue on the UPnP and Uniti on this discussion: https://forums.naimaudio.com/ev...2903417/m/9842922437

JL

Hopefully an easy question:

Currently using Dark Angel skin on foobar, on a 1080p TV. I'd love the font on the album list on the right to be bigger...is this an easy job?

Foobar is acting up badly playback keeps freezing and jumping? I have tried messing around with the buffer size but to no avail? anyone seen this before?

Hiface > WASAPI > 24bit

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I'd love the font on the album list on the right to be bigger...is this an easy job?

Yes this is easy.

In some panels the font size is a little more buried in the code. But Album List is easy.

Preferences>
Display>
Columns UI>
Colours and Fonts>

Select "Fonts" Tab

Under "Element:" Select "Album List"

Click on "Change" next to "Font:"

Change away...

I like a Bold font here.


I hope this helps!

Now changing the font in the EL Playlist is a litle tougher.

-Patrick

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I have tried messing around with the buffer size but to no avail? anyone seen this before?

I have to assume it is the WASAPI driver for the Hiface.