Moan Thread, You have been warned!
Posted by: wellyspyder on 03 January 2007
I know it is only 3 days into the new year but here it is.
Why cannot people relax? I mean whilst driving. Why drive so aggresively, cutting in and out, add tailgating in light traffic also (not that it is a good thing to do at anytime). Please think about what you are doing, get there in one piece feeling relax. Try it and see what you think.
Why cannot people relax? I mean whilst driving. Why drive so aggresively, cutting in and out, add tailgating in light traffic also (not that it is a good thing to do at anytime). Please think about what you are doing, get there in one piece feeling relax. Try it and see what you think.
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by DIL
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the case that diesels simply vary the amount of fuel being injected whilst petrol engines have to vary the amount of fuel AND air (by throttling / restricting air intake), to maintain the correct air/fuel mixture required for spark ignition. This affects engine efficiencies, especially at part throttle (Petrol less efficient as it is 'breathing' through a smaller hole.) which is why "brisk acceleration" (ie run at full throttle) is recomended FOR PETROL ENGINED CARS. Diesel engines are not petrol engines and almost certainly can/need to be driven differently to obtain maximum mpg. (All other things being equal.)
/dl
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Posted on: 04 January 2007 by DIL
... middle laners (Should attract penalty points)
... tailgating
... Sheffield drivers (They are issued with blinkers when they pass their test)
... drivers who vary their speed, for no apparent reason. Especially those that dawdle, then speed up when you try and overtake.
... drivers who are not aware of their surroundings (Bit of a catch all, but you know them when you see them.)
/dl
... tailgating
... Sheffield drivers (They are issued with blinkers when they pass their test)
... drivers who vary their speed, for no apparent reason. Especially those that dawdle, then speed up when you try and overtake.
... drivers who are not aware of their surroundings (Bit of a catch all, but you know them when you see them.)
/dl
Posted on: 05 January 2007 by SB
I couple of my personal gripes.
People joining a dual carriageway or motorway via a slip road and not accelerating to the running speed of the major road. Thus causing traffic already on the major road to have to brake or change lanes.
Indicating right when approaching a roundabout when travelling straight ahead. You don't indicate right when a passing a road on the left to say "I'm not turning left" So why do it on a roundabout???
General lack of road awareness and observation. On the M3 a few months ago, I pulled over from lane 3 to lane 2 to let a rapidly approaching police car pass on "blues and twos". I had seen him coming up in the distance. The car in front of me then indicates right and pulls straight out in front of the police car. I couldn't believe it and can easily guess at the language of the police driver If this guy couldn't see a police car with blue lights flashing at less than 100 yards, what hope does it give for the rest of us.
People joining a dual carriageway or motorway via a slip road and not accelerating to the running speed of the major road. Thus causing traffic already on the major road to have to brake or change lanes.
Indicating right when approaching a roundabout when travelling straight ahead. You don't indicate right when a passing a road on the left to say "I'm not turning left" So why do it on a roundabout???
General lack of road awareness and observation. On the M3 a few months ago, I pulled over from lane 3 to lane 2 to let a rapidly approaching police car pass on "blues and twos". I had seen him coming up in the distance. The car in front of me then indicates right and pulls straight out in front of the police car. I couldn't believe it and can easily guess at the language of the police driver If this guy couldn't see a police car with blue lights flashing at less than 100 yards, what hope does it give for the rest of us.
Posted on: 05 January 2007 by Steve Toy
quote:Indicating right when approaching a roundabout when travelling straight ahead. You don't indicate right when a passing a road on the left to say "I'm not turning left" So why do it on a roundabout???
That's annoying because they are slow. You see the RH indicator and think, "good riddance!"
Then they are still in front of you holding you up as you exit the roundabout at the second exit, i.e: straight on.
Driving speed (up to an optimum safe level) is directly proportional to levels of concentration and slowness is usually inversely proportional. Use of indicators is a form of effective communication (or it should be) but if you are on auto-pilot acting as a passenger at the wheel, the indication process becomes automatic (and highly sanctimonious) process to be used:
1) By default on all roundabouts - left for first exit, right for all other exits.
2) Right before all parked cars - even if they are just before or level with a junction to the right.
3) Right if they happen to to look in their rear view mirror and see you begin attempting to overtake them.
I have seen all the above as I do my job. Such drivers are blissfully aware that they are holding you up so any attempts to hurry them along by tailgating are futile, counter-intuitive and dangerous. The smug bastard gets even smugger when he's caused an accident that is technically your fault.
Tailgaters and brake checkers both equally score 10/10 for being utter wankers.
Posted on: 05 January 2007 by Rockingdoc
quote:Originally posted by JohanR:
Brisk acceleration in a high gear is the best way to save fuel when accelerating. This is a fact.
JohanR
I had an Evo whose mpg varied between 28mpg and 4 mpg depending on driving styles. I therefore feel well qualified to tell you this is NOT a fact.
Posted on: 06 January 2007 by BigH47
quote:1) By default on all roundabouts - left for first exit, right for all other exits.
Left for all exits (after the ones you don't want).
Right maybe to indicate you are going to a late exit?
I just love the people who indicate off the roundabout the exit before they leave.
Also the left laners who insist on going all the way round.
If people tailgate me I slow down, as it is obviously dangerous for them to be travelling so close, so I give them more chance to stop without hitting me.
Howard
Posted on: 06 January 2007 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:quote:1) By default on all roundabouts - left for first exit, right for all other exits.
Left for all exits (after the ones you don't want).
Right maybe to indicate you are going to a late exit?
I just love the people who indicate off the roundabout the exit before they leave.
Also the left laners who insist on going all the way round.
If people tailgate me I slow down, as it is obviously dangerous for them to be travelling so close, so I give them more chance to stop without hitting me.
Howard
It is heartening to know that drivers do not differ around the world. My major gripe is those who still tailgate when I am travelling at the max allowed by law speed limit. They seem to not want to pass, they just sit there. Maybe they are trying to used the slip stream effect to save fuel?
When I speed up to leave a gap between me and them, they sped up to close the gap. Makes me nervous. Eventually I gradually slow down till they get the message. I am trying very hard to resist hitting the brakes suddenly. One day i might just....
Posted on: 07 January 2007 by Jay
quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
I am trying very hard to resist hitting the brakes suddenly. One day i might just....
I've seen that mentioned a couple of times, and tempting as it may be, in my book you'll be no better than the tailgater. You'd be putting yourself, and more importantly, everyone else on the road at risk.
Now what about pedestrians! They see you coming but still walk across the road. What's up with that? Why put your next 6 months of life (or worse) at risk because you "think" someone's going to stop! Very strange.
Posted on: 07 January 2007 by Basil
Posted on: 07 January 2007 by joe90
The world is full of dickheads and you are all pointlessly winding yourselves up.
Stop.
Stop.
Posted on: 07 January 2007 by Basil
quote:125: Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards other road users. You should
try to be understanding if other drivers cause problems; they may be inexperienced or not know the area well
be patient; remember that anyone can make a mistake
not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse. Pull over, calm down and, when you feel relaxed, continue your journey
slow down and hold back if a vehicle pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow it to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind it.
Posted on: 07 January 2007 by wellyspyder
quote:Originally posted by Jay:quote:Originally posted by wellyspyder:
I am trying very hard to resist hitting the brakes suddenly. One day i might just....
I've seen that mentioned a couple of times, and tempting as it may be, in my book you'll be no better than the tailgater. You'd be putting yourself, and more importantly, everyone else on the road at risk.
It is great to let off steam (pondering but not doing), lightens the load in life
