I want the body of a Greek God
Posted by: Mick P on 05 June 2002
Chaps
I am 53 yrs of age, now weigh 14 stone, my waistline is 38" and I am only 5ft 9". I want to become slim again.
I have a rather good lifestyle in the sense that I do indulge in numerous lunchs and dinners because of business and social requirements. Also Mrs Mick is a very competent cook and generally we eat well.
Today for instance business lunch consisted of soup, steak and kidney pudding with a selection of veg, pineapple upside down sponge with custard. This was washed down with a bottle of red wine and a pot of tea.
Mrs Mick usually does a pasta dish on Wednesday evenings followed by cheese and biscuits. We will probably drink half a bottle of wine between us and then I will have a large glass of whiskey at about 9.00.
We eat out every Satuday and also some Sundays
This may sound indulgent but it is typical.
I do not take any exercise and as such my waistline is inching up.
What is the best way of slimming down, I can modify the lunches and dinners by eating more healthy etc, but am I better off going to a gym or buying a bicycle or what.
I need to lose a lot of weight, say two and a half stone, Mrs Mick who also eats a lot, is still relatively slim, needs only to loose 7 lbs.
We are soon embarking on a quick 7 day holiday in Rhodes and on my return want to start the fitness campaign.
Any advice would be most welcome on how to regain my figure.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Steve Catterall
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I think that happens to everyone whatever they do
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Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Mick P
Chaps
Mrs Mick and I are taking a quick one week break to Greece next week and on our return, will join the National Ramblers Association.
Evidently one good long walk on a Sunday is a good way to kickstart to return to good health.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 12 June 2002 by David Stewart
Mick,
Enjoy your holiday, but take the opportunity to get into training by doing two or three 25-30 minute brisk walks whilst you're away. If you don't, one good Sunday afternoon ramble may bring you to your knees.(Ramblers take these things very seriously you know!) - Oh and don't forget your Kagool!
DS
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Top Cat
MMmmmm... went there with a previous girlfriend in 1999 - fantastic place, but we went in July and it was a touch on the 'too hot' side of hot.
We stayed in Pefki (Kefki?) near Lindos. You must try the climb up the temple thingie at Lindos, but avoid the rather delicious Kebabs on the way down. Don't be tempted to take a Donkey up the hill, it's a good and manageable walk and in the heat it'll help you sweat some of the calories off.
Or perhaps you're doing the club 18-30 thing (under an assumed identity or some weird alignment of the stars in Uranus) so you might find that 'largin' it' in Faliraki is more your kinda thing. So long as you avoid the Alcopops you'll soon rave the pounds off.
TC '..'
"Girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a Muffin..."
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Top Cat
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Such things no longer concern me now that I have adopted a celibate lifestyle.
Hmmmmm... never really met anyone who truly chose a celibate lifestyle as opposed to had it thrust upon them. I take it that you ain't gettin' any then my dear Vuk? I thought that perhaps with your sort of cash you'd be able to afford to buy yourself some...
Personally I once adopted a halibut lifestyle but found that I didn't really get on with all that flapping around on sandbanks and that funny moving the eye thing really gives you a headache after a while...
TC '..'"
Girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a Muffin..."
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Former member
It will take more than a brisk walk once a week to give you a body like a greek god.
You need hard work and dedication and several hours a week for a couple of months just to get what I call fit (i.e. running miles in about 7 minutes or rowing 2k in less than 7 mins 30 secs)
dozy
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Pete, Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know
Hi, dosy
Whats your best time for 2000 meters mines 7.17, and 3.29 for 1000 meters. Not bad for a 43 year old!!!
Pete Mad Bad & Dangerous to Know
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Former member
Pete, my best time for 2k is 7 mins 3 secs. I am 46 and 75kg - so this time is very good for an old lightweight like myself.
I know I could go faster/be fitter if I trained more, but it gets too time consuming, and you feel like shit with the lactic acid buildup after doing a time trial like that!
dozy
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Nigel Cavendish
Are we talking on water or those wimpy ergometer thingies?
And 7 minute miles - over what distances?
cheers
Nigel
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Pete, Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know
Hi, Dosy
7.03 a good time! I might be able to knock mine down a bit, but its just the pain, I only do rowing a couple of times a week or so, usually I just go round the machines/weights. I am 82Kg so that puts me in the heavyweight class!!!.
Pete Mad Bad & Dangerous to Know
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Former member
I was talking about the eronometer thingys. Concept II I think they are called
As far as 7 minute miles are concerned, I find it difficult to do more than about 4 miles at that pace. I believe 2 miles at that pace is considered "good" for someone in their thirties. If Mick could do 1 mile at that pace I would shake him by the hand and tell him he was fit.
I tend to talk about 7 minute miles meaning that is the pace for a normal training run length of 3 or 4 miles, giving about 25 mins of exercise.
dozy
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Former member
btw pete, I think 7:17 is a very good time too for us over 40's! It took me a long time to improve from 7:20 down to 7:03.
There is a guy at my gym who can do 2k in 6:30. Admittedly he has legs like tree trunks and is in his late 20's. Makes you wonder how someone like Steve Redgrave can do 2k in 5:30!!!
I don't think there is anything wimpy about the concept 2 machines - they are simply a tool of self torture. I am sure they have nothing to do with "real" rowing though!
dozy
Posted on: 13 June 2002 by Pete, Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know
Posted on: 15 June 2002 by Former member
If anybody has one spare, please can you send her round my place whilst the wife's out
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by Mick P
Chaps
I have kick started this thread because I am kick starting my quest for the Greek body yet again.
I have sold the Jag and still remain carless and I walk to and from the office each day which is about 4 miles in total.
I have all but finished with business lunches and puddings have been "off" for the last few weeks.
Since January, I have lost 4 pounds which although a move in the right direction, is far too slow.
Therefore I have joined a gym and have 3 visits a week. Surprisingly it is less boring than I anticipated although at the moment, I ache in muscles I never knew that I had.
I go in and do 15 minute on a cycling machine, 45 minutes on these weight machines and 20 minutes on a running machine ( I walk at 6 kl/hr up a 6 degree slope.
I hope this will get things going.
Matthew would be proud of me, I wear a nice pair of black velcro shorts. I must confess, I look like a snake that has swallowed an egg.
I will keep you posted on progress.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by Former member
Mick
Good luck with your quest.
Have you enlisted the services of a personal trainer?
You may scoff at the thought, but they are invaluable, IMHO. You probably don't need someone to stand by you offering encouragement/chastisement, but you may benefit from the development of a programme to meet your needs, with a monthly review of how you are doing. These people know what they are talking about.
Also, diet is as/more important as exercise. Perhaps a dietician may help design an appropriate food programme for you? Whilst chopping out puddings is possibly a good thing, a proper food regime is vital.
Good luck, again.
ag
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by Tony Lockhart
Good luck Mick, Mrs Mick really will appreciate the improvements!
Tony
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by Mick P
Alex
I paid extra to be pestered and monitored by a "Fitness Trainer". Same sort of thing as a personal trainer in the sense that they keep you on the staight and narrow.
I have a couple of friends who have started doing this and whilsted they ached for the first couple of weeks, find that they feel a lot better now.
I will give it 3 months and see how it goes. I am certainly aching.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by ErikL
Velcro Shorts 
Mick,
What the hell are velcro shorts? Would you stick to a wall of velour if I threw you at it?
Also, studies have shown that 3 workouts is too little, and there are significant benefits to be had from adding a forth.
Good luck.
PS- We all know this is merely part of your dream to model amongst your Naim gear in the next newsletter.
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by matthewr
Mick,
I assume you mean *Lycra* shorts not velcro. Otherwise I have visions of you begin flung off the back of the treadmill and gettting stuck to the gym carpet by the seat of your pants and having to endure an undignified prising off the floor by the gym staff.
Also the lycra is more Tim and Ross's thing these days. When I'm ripping up my local jump spot I tend to favour a baggy cargo pant or similar.
Matthew
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by matthewr
Snap.
Posted on: 30 November 2003 by Wolf
Don't expect to go too fast on the way down. 4 pounds is good, take more time for walking on days off. Do lots of sight seeing/walking and hill climbing on your trips. That is certainly more enjoyable than a treadmill. Cut out the junk food and excess alcohol (I have friends that cut out pasta and bread and for a time their nightly wine bottle or two and they dropped about 14 pounds). And, think more steamed veggies than other fattening casserols, and bread etc and the weight will slowly come off. But, you have spent many years adding it on, it's not something that comes off really fast. and of course more active listening to your Naim gear could help, along with daily situps and pushups for that toned adonis body.
glenn
Life is analogue
Posted on: 01 December 2003 by Berlin Fritz
It's called Self-Dicipline, without a trainer kicking you in the arse and screaming.
Life is Digital.
Fritz the Cheese.
Graham Ricketts
Posted on: 01 December 2003 by Former member
Good luck mick - sounds like a good start. If you can keep it going for 6 weeks you will be able to see the benefits, and feel them too.
Alan
