advice buying s/h nac 102
Posted by: thomas on 30 October 2001
I was hoping for some advice on buying secondhand a nac102 to upgrade from my 92, as there's quite a lot of cash at stake here..
I'm off to demo one tomorrow & the owner has described his as one of the first of the'new models'- any ideas about how old this is? How long do these run before 'recapping?'Should I be looking for any particular faults/quirks, and by the way how easy is it to transfer my mm phono board from the 92 to the102?
Any hints would be appreciated from this humble 'junior' member..(!)
t
Posted on: 30 October 2001 by Martin Payne
No idea on variants of the 102, but you may be interested in these approximate serial-no ranges, as can be found on the Naim website:-
000016 - 006933 1982
006944 - 011998 1983
011999 - 019752 1984
019753 - 026689 1985
026690 - 031999 1986
032000 - 041484 1987
041485 - 049945 1988
049946 - 060867 1989
060868 - 069924 1990
069925 - 076367 1991
076368 - 083272 1992
083273 - 093739 1993
093740 - 105143 1994
105144 - 117211 1995
117212 - 128626 1996
128627 - 139322 1997
139322 - 150454 1998
150455 - 161170 1999
161171 - 2000
Print it out & take it with you!
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by thomas
dear Martin- thanks for your reply- at least I got one!!
After much deliberation I broke the bank & went for an 82....
t
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by calum scott
quote:
After much deliberation I broke the bank & went for an 82....
Facing the same dilemma. Thought a 102 was what I wanted then heard an 82
Is it new? What's the rest of your system?
Going to my dealer this weekend so 82 may be on its way.
Cheers,
Calum
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by SaturnSF
Alas, knew an 82 was what I wanted, but could only afford a 102. Still, I'm happy with it.
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by Chris Dolan
Thomas
Well done.
I was going to reply to your first post but I thought it might sound a bit patronising to suggest you forget the 102 and try the 82 - particularly as you didn't expand on the rest of your system.
Chris
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by thomas:
dear Martin- thanks for your reply- at least I got one!!
After much deliberation I broke the bank & went for an 82....t
Thomas,
good move. They're fantastic.
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 31 October 2001 by dave simpson
Hi Thomas,
The 102 is incredible! Closer to the second generation products (82/520) in "sound" than the 72 especially when partnered with a napsc and separate *cap. Easily a good notch above your 92. The better the source , the better the music yet it's not so input sensitive a baby naim cd player will sound exposed.
Someone correct me here...doesn't the 92 and 102 share the same series 5 boards so Thomas can simply have his dealer assign (solder) 102 phono inputs and pop the old boards in place?
regards,
dave
Biased 102 owner
Posted on: 01 November 2001 by Not For Me
Yes, the 102 / 82 / 52 all can take the 5 series boards.
I moved my 'K' series phono boards from 102 -> 82
-> 52 -> out altogether quite sucessfully.
There is no soldering involved - they just plug in.
(Having said that, now await reply from user who says "Soldering them sounds better")
David
Posted on: 01 November 2001 by dave simpson
Thanks Dave,
Not sure if this was clear on my part, but my solder comments were concerned with a new unit purchased (sans boards). I may be wrong but doesn't the dealer have to either cut (or create via soldering)a link(?)for input (plug assignment) on the mainboard for units originally purchased without cards? (Input 1 on the 102 is factory wired to the Input 1 DIN plug and not the Input 1 RCA jacks... I think)
In other words , it's not just Plug 'n Play (plug the cards in and music comes out).... again, maybe I'm way off base on this.
In addition, you are saying (by not saying;)Thomas' existing 92 boards are series five also.
regards,
dave
Posted on: 02 November 2001 by Not For Me
I don't know about the need to solder a link - the 102 / 82 / 52 (and 72 and 42) I have had all have the bnc / phono inputs on input 1, and I have put in MM, MC and straight thru boards on that input.
Is there an input 1 on din on some pre-amps ?
I expect the 92 uses the 5 series cards, but I have not owned that pre amp.
Perhaps someone at Naim can clear this up?
David
