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What is it about the iPod ??

Posted by: David Stewart on 27 December 2003

Help me out here - someone! I'm struggling very hard to see just what it is about the Apple iPod that -
Unless I'm missing something absolutely crucial here, this thing is an MP3 player, allbeit one with an enormous storage capacity, but anyway, who on earth needs to carry around with them over 300 hours of non-stop music?

Granted it does support the "CD quality" AAC file format, but as this is available only to the tiny percentage of potential users who have Apple Mac computers and not to the vast majority with Windows, this feature hardly seems to fit into the 'Major Life Enhancing Benefit' category.

Add to that it needs firewire or USB 2.0 (which not every PC has!) to feed its all consuming hunger and its tough to see just what all the fuss is about.

To pay nearly £300 pounds for this 'box of tricks', strikes me as faintly ridiculous, given in 6 months or so there'll be something bigger, better and far, far cheaper to do the same job. Anyway you can buy MP3 players now, with 12 hour music storage capacity for less than £50 and surely that's enough to meet most peoples needs.

The cynic in me fears this is just another example of marketing hype over-riding consumer common sense, or is it perhaps the last death rattle of a computer company trying desperately to stay in business? Hopefully somebody out there can answer the riddle Confused

David

[This message was edited by David Stewart on SATURDAY 27 December 2003 at 10:39.]
Posted on: 01 January 2004 by Tim Danaher
And don't forget "Home On iPod" (slated to appear in the next iteration of Panther).

This will enable users to transfer their Home directories between different machines. Not just documents: all your e-mail, browser bookmarks, program preferences etc., will be automatically updated and synched. That, and the release of the cheaper 4GB model, would finally persuade me to buy one (I really couldn't give a toss about music on the move).

Cheers,

Tim
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Posted on: 01 January 2004 by Former member
Not all good news

More about this.

ag
Posted on: 01 January 2004 by garyi
The brothers page is a load of bollocks, apparantly this guy has bees in his bonnet about everything.

What I don't understand is this implication that things last for ever and ever, apple now offer a replacement battery with fitting for around 60 quid, I fail to see how people could argue with that.
Posted on: 01 January 2004 by David Stewart
60 quid for a replacement battery - what's it made of solid gold - sounds like a sweet little earner for Apple to me Red Face

There's a company called MD Battery that do a direct replacement for the iPod M8541 battery ("as supplied to Apple from Danionics") for only £44.65 full retail (inc VAT).

David
Posted on: 06 January 2004 by ErikL
For iPod fans: the new iPod Mini.
Posted on: 06 January 2004 by garyi
It does look sweet but I well pissed off with apple for starting to charge for iphoto, apparently they have a new version out which actually moves reasonably quickl, but you have to pay Mad

More and more like Microsoft everyday.
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
It does look sweet but I well pissed off with apple for starting to charge for iphoto, apparently they have a new version out which actually moves reasonably quickl, but you have to pay Mad

More and more like Microsoft everyday.


I think Apple are really shooting themselves in the foot if they don't keep at least iPhoto and iTunes as free downloads. The small amount of income generated from ilife will be swamped by the pissed of Mac users who don't upgrade to a new Mac.

Of course, if they announce free downloads after people have paid for ilife, then they will get pissed off too!

iTunes is why the music store is sucessful, and it's sucessful because it's free. I think iDVD and iMovie shouls also be free - these apps sell Mac hardware after all. And the 'integration' is part of the Mac appeal.

Frown

Regards

Stephen

PS Can you copy direct to an iPod via iTunes and miss out the HD?
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by garyi
Stephen, I don't believe you can copy music direct to the ipod as it needs the itune software to sort it out for playback.

I am really pissed at apple for doing this.

My basic premise is this. A few months back I purchased OSX, on it was iphoto.

As far as I am concerned £100 for an OS upgrade is a lot of money, but almost worth it considering all the other stuff.

What apple are saying is, yes you have paid us £100 for the software upgrade, but some of the software on there you will have to pay for again.

Its bang out of order.

I stuck something of the same on the apple site, don't suppose it will stay too long.
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by Former member
Gary,

The computer experts in my office inform me that it is much more sensible to run a PC system these days. It will certainly save you a lot of money.

Semi
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by matthewr
"iTunes is why the music store is sucessful, and it's sucessful because it's free"

iTunes Music Store is successful in that its reasonably popular but in commercial terms its a disaster as it makes Apple no money at all (what profits they make they are obliged to give to the RIAA).

ITMS also a bum deal for the users as well. Not sure why so many people are choosing ot pay 99c for a low bit-rate, lossy rip of a song which is full of DRM technology designed to deny you fair use once you've bought it.

Matthew
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by Simon Perry
When even ipod users won't admit that there is a problem with the battery you know that Apple have it cracked! They can fleece their customers and they don't even care. Its really quite beautiful...
As for ITMS, this sort of behaviour will only invigorate the use of services like e-mule, where very high quality MP3s are available for free.
Simon
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by Stephen Bennett
I didn't say I wanted to use iTunes store! Downloads will only be useful to me when they are 16bit full bandwidth or more.

Regards

Stephen
Posted on: 27 January 2004 by Kevin-W
What is it about the iPod?

Everyone has missed the point. The reason why the iPod is flying off the shelves, why it's the mmost-talked-about thing since lawd knows when, is because Jonathan Ive (Apple's chief designer) is a genius. He has created an object which, for all its qualities (which are many) and despite its faults (there are some) is innately, and mysteriously, desirable. That's all there is to it. There may be similar products around which are "better" but there are none which are as desirable. It's a very simple trick, but one that is extremely hard to pull off.

God I want one...

Kevin