Margerine vs Butter

Posted by: Stephen Tate on 29 November 2005

Do you know...
the difference between margerine and butter?
Read to the end...it gets very intresting!

Both have the same amount of calories.
Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to five grams.

Eating margerine can increase heart disease in women by 57% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard medical study.

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margerine has a few only because they are added!

Butter tastes much better than margerine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods.

Butter has been around for centuries where margerine has been around for less than 100 years.

And now!, for margerine...
Very high in trans fatty acids...
Triple risk of coronary heart disease...
Increases total cholesterol and LDL ( this is the bad cholesterol) Lowers HDL cholesterol,
( the good cholesterol)...
Increases the risk of cancers by up to five fold...
Lowers quality of breast milk...
Decreases immune response...
Decreases insulin response...

and here is the most disturbing fact....

HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING!

Margerine is but one molecule away from being plastic..
This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margerine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated ( this means hydrogen is added , changing the structure of the substance).

You can try this yourself:
Purchase a tub of margerine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.
Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things: no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it ( that should tell you something)...
it does not rot or smell differently..
because it has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it...
even those teeny weeny micro-organisms will not a find a home to grow.
Why?
Because it is nearly plastic.
Would you melt your tupperware and spread it on your toast?

Share this with your friends.....
( Butter them up!)

P.S These views are my own and not necessarily the views of portsmouth college.

regards,

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by u5227470736789439

I have always tried to avoid the man-made synthetic foods. I was and will never worried by what science has to say on issues in the short run, where commercial interst in the new developement will always scew the results (who trusts science implicitly?), and now we find the truth emerging. Well, well, what a surprise there then! Somehow if something ancient was truly bad it would have disappeared a long time ago...

The solution is to not to over-indulge. A little bit of what you like...

All the best from Fredrik, who grew up on a farm and lived on un-pasterised milk till he was seven...

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by Deane F

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Tate:

Lowers quality of breast milk...

Well, that does it! I always thought it tasted bad...

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by Stephen Tate

Thanks for your reply fredrik
It just goes to show what we are eating and drinking for that matter.

Take care,all the best

cheers,steve.

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by Roy T

Ask Maria Schneider

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by Stephen Tate

quote:
Originally posted by Deane F:
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Tate:

Lowers quality of breast milk...

Well, that does it! I always thought it tasted bad...

LOL..

Posted on: 29 November 2005 by Stephen B

Like many, I was duped by the marketing bullshit and used margarine (and sunflower oil) for many years.

For the last ten years or so I've used butter (and olive oil) and will carry on doing so.

Try this link.

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by BigH47

Where do you get the right information though?
Everywhere you turn conflicting interests and opinions.
Some of these like whether to use a Fraim or a glass shelf on bricks arn't really THAT important.
A change from butter to marge could be life changing(ending).

Any ideas where the least biased info is?

Howard

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Martin D

Butter and olive oil for me, we just don’t know the long term consequences of using what is just a man made chemical cocktail in our diets.

found this also

http://drcranton.com/nutrition/margarin.htm

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Rico

quote:
Maria Schneider

"I can't beleive it's not butter!" yeah right.

And coca cola comes from cows.

all things in moderation. Natural as first preference.

blondes optional.

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Sir Crispin Cupcake

I can't believe it's not I cant believe it's not butter

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Deane F

quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:

Everywhere you turn conflicting interests and opinions.

Sounds to me like a perfect description of science...

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Martin D

Deane
Its not the science that’s the problem, just the interpretation - the human / vested interest bit. We use to think the sun went round the earth etc
Martin

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Deane F

Martin

The human / vested interest bit is science. Is there some kind of idealised person that practices scientific enquiry? A person that isn't prone to ambition or greed? Somebody who isn't afraid of interpreting data in a way that doesn't meet the expectations of the people paying for the research?

The golden rule of the arts and sciences - "He who has the gold makes the rules".

Deane

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Martin D

Point taken!
I meant once the science is done to whatever our ability, then there could be differant outcomes depending on the interpretation.
Cheers
I'm not explaining myself very well here!

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Stephen Tate

it all sounds abit hi fi tom me!
anyway keep up the good work chaps!

regards,

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Martin D

We'll all get banned when we talk about making our own butter or a DIY margerine recipe, how about a 50/50 butter margerine mix?

Interesting subject though

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Deane F

Well, I was a staunch butter man until a month or two ago. Now I use butter softened with sunflower oil. I still haven't made up my mind about it though. The pure butter is in the fridge and I just use it for baking.

Apparently the Romans used butter for all sorts of things...

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Stephen Tate

quote:
Originally posted by Deane F:
Well, I was a staunch butter man until a month or two ago. Now I use butter softened with sunflower oil. I still haven't made up my mind about it though. The pure butter is in the fridge and I just use it for baking.

Apparently the Romans used butter for all sorts of things...

i can imagine

regards

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by Martin D

Posted on: 30 November 2005 by u5227470736789439

quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:
Where do you get the right information though?
Everywhere you turn conflicting interests and opinions.

[...].
Any ideas where the least biased info is?

Howard

Dear Howard,

Common sense, as I suggested in the first reply! Fredrik

PS: My late English grandfather used to say, wisely, if a little cynically, " Believe nothing you are told and half you read, and you will have a quarter of the truth." True, however you look at it!

Posted on: 01 December 2005 by BigH47

quote:
Common sense, as I suggested in the first reply! Fredrik

That's not particularly helpful is it?
Common has not got much sense anyway.

Howard

PS did you tell me that or did I read it?

Posted on: 01 December 2005 by u5227470736789439

Dear Howard,

You read it! Or someone else told it you...

You know that sorting out the valid from the wrong-headed in this information rich world is indeed difficult, and the solution is generally to take it with a pinch of salt, and apply a good dose of Common Sense - good old fashioned savvy if you like!

Now I have never thought I was inteligent. I scored zero in an IO test as a thirteen year old for example, but was never stuck with how to deal with real problems from a very early age. I know quite few highly inteligent people who seem to struggle with the basics, such as wiring plugs, or for what reason an oil light flashes on the dash-board of car, shortly before the engine stops, for two real examples. One was a brilliant Classics Scholar, but who actaully had his positive and negative back to front on his Hoover and the Earth cut off where it actually entered the plug. The other (oil pressure) was a Senior CoE Cleric. Now if you cannot apply common sense, as you suggest to sifting the chaf from the seed, then I suspect that you fall into the highly inteligent but rather stupid group of people who often do well, when others posessed of savvy, common sense, call it what you will, never get anywhere, probably because we tend to call a spade, a spade however brutal this may be.

All the best to you in improving your ability to sift the wheat from the chaff, but going on your trite comment above, no doubt you need to open your mind to the issues first! No one else can do it for you. Fredrik

PS. If you are eating so much butter or margerine that it threatens your health, that also demonstrates a lack of common sense...

Posted on: 01 December 2005 by BigH47

Fredrik I left out the emoticons but back up anyway.
I waa responding to another trite comment BTW.
We have moved from butter to olivio type products because of the negative "press" for butter. Now things seem to be going back the other way.All I'm trying to say is how can you make valid decisions with contradicatry evidence.
Obviously common sense should be used, and even I have shown some at times.

Howard

PS Salt is bad for you too apparently so no "more taking a pinch with it".

Posted on: 01 December 2005 by Nime

Never a truer word.. had a spanner thrust into the spokes.

Posted on: 01 December 2005 by u5227470736789439

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigH47:
Obviously common sense should be used, and even I have shown some at times.

Howard
QUOTE]

Dear Howard,

I know that! I hope there are no remaining hurt feelings! All the best from Fredrik