Where have you placed your LP12??
Posted by: Gram Parsons on 29 February 2004
Please, give me some recommendations....
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by glevethan
I do not know yet as I am awaiting for my newly ordered LP12 to arrive !!!!!!!!! (and I can't wait)
I am planning to place it on top of a glass shelf which is part of my quadraspire rack. My dealer who will be doing the installation (who happens to be one of the foremost LP12 setup gurus here in the states) has no problem with it sitting on this.
Regards
Gregg
I am planning to place it on top of a glass shelf which is part of my quadraspire rack. My dealer who will be doing the installation (who happens to be one of the foremost LP12 setup gurus here in the states) has no problem with it sitting on this.
Regards
Gregg
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by glenda
Hi Gram , I've used the following :
mana reference table - marks 10/10
fraim - marks 8 / 10
quadraspire reference - 6/10
In a moment of madness , I sold my ref table and have regretted it since. They can occasionally be found 2nd hand. Hope this helps .
Glenda
mana reference table - marks 10/10
fraim - marks 8 / 10
quadraspire reference - 6/10
In a moment of madness , I sold my ref table and have regretted it since. They can occasionally be found 2nd hand. Hope this helps .
Glenda
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by Gram Parsons
Thanx Glenda!
Other recommendations....??
Other recommendations....??
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by Willy
quote:
Originally posted by Gram Parsons:
Please, give me some recommendations....
Now atop a Fraim. No regrets.
Willy.
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by prowla
Mine's boxed up, in the loft!
Paul Rowlands
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by J.N.
Gram
I see you're on the telly next week.
At the risk of throwing a spanner in the analogue works, myself and others have discovered that an LP12 in close proximity to the rest of Naim kit (on non-ferrous supports) appears to degrade the sound quality.
We're assuming that it's the steel chassis that causes the effect.
Might sound a bit bizarre; but if your Linn is close to the rest of the kit, try moving it away.
I run my LP12 as far away from the rest of the kit (on Fraim) as the interconnects (via the Stageline) will allow.
Bloody annoying but true.
I see you're on the telly next week.
At the risk of throwing a spanner in the analogue works, myself and others have discovered that an LP12 in close proximity to the rest of Naim kit (on non-ferrous supports) appears to degrade the sound quality.
We're assuming that it's the steel chassis that causes the effect.
Might sound a bit bizarre; but if your Linn is close to the rest of the kit, try moving it away.
I run my LP12 as far away from the rest of the kit (on Fraim) as the interconnects (via the Stageline) will allow.
Bloody annoying but true.
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by greeny
On a wall shelf. In my case Quadraspire. LP12 is very prone to footfall if you don't have solid floor.
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Gram Parsons
Thank you, how does a ikea table work? 
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Top Cat
On a low QS Ref table (8/10)
Owned previously:
Ikea shelf: 3/10
Target shelf: 4.5/10
Mana Phase 8 wallshelf: 8.5/10
QS Ref wallshelf: 8.5/10
Fraim would be a notional 10 based upon my experiences. Mana was great in a hifi way, QS Ref is more musical - Phase 8 Mana and the QS Ref are roughly equal in enjoyment terms.
John
Owned previously:
Ikea shelf: 3/10
Target shelf: 4.5/10
Mana Phase 8 wallshelf: 8.5/10
QS Ref wallshelf: 8.5/10
Fraim would be a notional 10 based upon my experiences. Mana was great in a hifi way, QS Ref is more musical - Phase 8 Mana and the QS Ref are roughly equal in enjoyment terms.
John
Posted on: 02 March 2004 by JeremyD
I've never heard an LP12 on top of a stand full of equipment sounding anywhere near as good as it should. Light rigid tables or wall shelves are usually best - it will depend on your room.
I recommend starting off with something relatively inexpensive, simply because it is likely to give you a taste of everything an LP12 does.
I recommend starting off with something relatively inexpensive, simply because it is likely to give you a taste of everything an LP12 does.
Posted on: 02 March 2004 by David O'Higgins
Top Cat - What is a 'phase 8 wall shelf' please? Sounds like you would need a ladder to access the turntable!
Posted on: 02 March 2004 by Rico
Mine's on the default Mana Wallshelf. In my future there is a Fraim - after kid(s) are older.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 02 March 2004 by Top Cat
quote:It's a Mana wallshelf with seven levels of Mana placed on it to 'reference' it - in my case a mixture of soundframes and soundbases. You start it low (mine started just about the skirting board) so that you can add more levels without it getting out of hand. It then looks similar to a rack, but wall mounted. Good sounding, but I believe Fraim is better. Now if I could only afford Fraim...
What is a 'phase 8 wall shelf' please? Sounds like you would need a ladder to access the turntable!
John
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
quote:
Originally posted by Gram Parsons:
Thank you, how does a ikea table work?
Gram
The "Lack" table works surprisingly well, at very little cost but to be truthfull is bettered by dedicated support tables. I went from a Lack to Audiotech and it was a big improvement.
At least one of the moderators here has their LP12 on Fraim.
Regards
Mike
On the Yellow Brick Road and Happy
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by neil w
john
thought you had the fraim sorted ?
neil
thought you had the fraim sorted ?
neil
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by mmhifi
I use Mana Reference Table, the floor is solid.
The result - incredible music from LP12.
Tried Base Rack before with Base plates or glass - didn't stand anywhere near the Mana.
The result - incredible music from LP12.
Tried Base Rack before with Base plates or glass - didn't stand anywhere near the Mana.
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by Peter C
I use an Audiotech Support Table on a solid floor.
Excellent support
Excellent support
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by blythe
Just like Greeny, my LP12 is on a wall mounted Quadraspire shelf.
Sounds damn good to me :-)
Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Sounds damn good to me :-)
Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by ken c
tonite, i am installing my LP12 atop a mana 2 tier table that i have just bought 2nd hand. next week, a soundstage will be delivered from mana and i put the whole thing atop that.
i am just a little nervous about the mana set-up, but i will dig up some setup instructions i have seen here and there...
enjoy
ken
ps: oh, i'll let you know how my lp12 sounds initially on the basic table and then with the soundstage -- should be an interesting upgrade to assess. my audiotech is now in the loft, but will not hesitate to bring it down again if this doesnt work for me...
i am just a little nervous about the mana set-up, but i will dig up some setup instructions i have seen here and there...
enjoy
ken
ps: oh, i'll let you know how my lp12 sounds initially on the basic table and then with the soundstage -- should be an interesting upgrade to assess. my audiotech is now in the loft, but will not hesitate to bring it down again if this doesnt work for me...
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by MarkEJ
quote:
Originally posted by ken c:
i am just a little nervous about the mana set-up, but i will dig up some setup instructions i have seen here and there...
Ken -- save yourself an enormous amount of hassle and get a Mana spirit level at the same time. You won't regret it!
Best;
Mark
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by ken c
mark:
Ken -- save yourself an enormous amount of hassle and get a Mana spirit level at the same time. You won't regret it!
i already have it!! in fact, i believe i am one of the very first few people to purchase this piece of jewellery..
enjoy
ken
Ken -- save yourself an enormous amount of hassle and get a Mana spirit level at the same time. You won't regret it!
i already have it!! in fact, i believe i am one of the very first few people to purchase this piece of jewellery..
enjoy
ken
Posted on: 13 March 2004 by MarkEJ
Phew! That's OK, then. 
Posted on: 14 March 2004 by artist
Ken you will not believe how much of a differance a sound stage will make
Posted on: 15 March 2004 by Top Cat
Neil, I did have a Fraim lined up but sadly I couldn't get it past the wife. It's on the cards as a future possibility, but for now all my funds will be channeled into our new extension/kitchen and I'll be sticking with the QS Ref. FWIW, system is sounding great - now I need to find some mint early press Beatles vinyl and I'll be a happy man...
John
John
Posted on: 15 March 2004 by Dev B
Hi Ken,
I was wondering, given your comments in the past, and what has worked well for you in the past and what has not - how big is your room? Reading into your comments a bit more and what has worked for you I suspect very-small-room-itis. I might be totally wrong, I am guessing since I don't know you and we haven't met, but in my very limited experience extreme near field (or very small room) listening requires a certain approach to system building and components. Since you are quite close the key is to get the soudn to integrate fully and have seamless top to bottom perspectives.
I'm just speculating, but I do feel a lot of people listen in the nearfield (I call less than 8 or less away nearfield) which can cause issues that are mainly recording and room related.
regards
Dev -- who listens in a large room about 13ft away from his speakers which has its own issues, but when you get right can be amazing.
I was wondering, given your comments in the past, and what has worked well for you in the past and what has not - how big is your room? Reading into your comments a bit more and what has worked for you I suspect very-small-room-itis. I might be totally wrong, I am guessing since I don't know you and we haven't met, but in my very limited experience extreme near field (or very small room) listening requires a certain approach to system building and components. Since you are quite close the key is to get the soudn to integrate fully and have seamless top to bottom perspectives.
I'm just speculating, but I do feel a lot of people listen in the nearfield (I call less than 8 or less away nearfield) which can cause issues that are mainly recording and room related.
regards
Dev -- who listens in a large room about 13ft away from his speakers which has its own issues, but when you get right can be amazing.