ND5 XS & Gapless Playback

Posted by: What's My Name on 18 May 2012

Invested some time do a search for "gapless" but no specific, tangible, luck on my problem.

 

I've ripped CD's to FLAC onto a Western Digital NAS drive which runs Twonky. As the title suggests, when playing live albums it puts gaps between the tracks which is driving me nuts (I got an XPS2 as well so not an inexpensive streamer at around 5 grand). I use the n-stream app to control the ND5.

 

So what do I have to do to get rid of these gaps ? Where is the problem ? From my reading this should all work without adding gaps that don't exist.

Posted on: 18 May 2012 by IanG
What program are you using to create the rips ? I use EAC and have not had this problem at all. I am also running Twonky but on a QNAP NAS. It may be that you have something checked/unchecked in your ripping software ?
Posted on: 18 May 2012 by Bertie Norman

The ND5XS does proper gapless with FLAC and mp3 - I had the same concerns as you over live albums and some classical albums. I think that the problem may be with the ripping - not the ND5XS. Which programme are you using? I use EAC which works fine and doesn't put gaps in unless they should be there. Windows mediaplayer, I think, puts gaps between tracks.

 

Hope that this helps

 

Sorry - this duplicates IanG's response - which wasn't showing when I started typing

Posted on: 18 May 2012 by McGhie
I too have ripped gaplessly, in my case using dBpoweramp, which does give you the option to include gaps. It doesn't sound like the issue is with the player (and it certainly isn't with nStream). If it isn't the rips then my next suspicion would be on the UPnP server (which is passing the data to the player). What ripper do you use (with what options)? And what UPnP server? Cheers Ian
Posted on: 18 May 2012 by What's My Name

dbPoweramp is the software I used to rip. I look around for options or tags, etc. but couldn't find anything. Thought maybe there was some trick like adding a tag. Looked on the dbPoweramp forum as I thought this might be the issue but everything seems to imply it was elsewhere that the problem would exist as dbPoweramp would not insert anything that was not on the CD and the CD doesn't have any gap between the tracks. I know on iTunes you have to tick the box to say its a gapless album hence thinking it was dbPoweramp.

 

What options do you set and where to on dbPoweramp ?

 

I'm using a Western digital NAS drive. Can't remember the model but its a modern one with Twonky built in.

Posted on: 18 May 2012 by McGhie
You would have to deliberately ask dBpoweramp to do it (e.g. the DSP option to write silence - there may be other ways too). It won't do it by default. There are also options to remove silence (some listed below) but presumably you're saying that the problem is the introduction of silence that's not there on the CD (i.e. it's not there to remove). Audio CD - Hidden Track Silence Removal: remove mid-track silence, Audio CD - Remove Gaps uses CD Index positions to remove inter-track gaps when ripping Audio CD - Silence Track Deletion: remove silence tracks from Audio CD, Used Twonky for a short while a year ago but can't recall if I had this problem with it. As an experiment, you could try downloading Asset (from dBpoweramp website) and trying that on your PC. It's free and it'll let you see if the problem is with Twonky or your rips (I know that your player can do gapless playback assuming it's fed files without gaps...) Process of elimination... Cheers Ian
Posted on: 18 May 2012 by What's My Name

Thanks. Will have a go with one album using the various DSP options. No option to change NAS server as its all built in i.e. not a PC.

Posted on: 18 May 2012 by Peter_RN

Trim Silence:  remove silence from beginning or end,

 

Might be the one you need.

 

Peter

Posted on: 18 May 2012 by McGhie
Wasn't suggesting you change your NAS, just that you install Asset on your PC and copy the tracks from one of the offending albums from NAS to PC to see if streaming from Asset is OK or not. It won't take long (download, install, copy some files, point Asset at them, turn server on, stream the files, see if you still have gaps). If it's OK then your files are fine and you've identified the problem (it's the UPnP server) and can leave your files alone. I'd check that before fiddling with DSL options. Cheers Ian