What do people do with their cds?
Posted by: keano on 08 August 2012
Have finally bought a LIV Zen 2TB CD Ripping Music Server NAS to my SuperUniti and are very satisfied. But what do people do with their cds selling them or keeping them?
I play mine on a CDP seems to work really well.
If anyone has any problems deciding what to do with their CD's, I am willing to 'store' them all at my place.......
If you threw the CDs away or incinerated them, but kept the rip then would that be illegal?
When cassette was introduced, we learned that "Home taping is killing music" ... so it should be dead and buried by now.
I wish I could archive books and magazine articles then I could burn them - I detest books, which take up far too much space .... except, of course, for my favourite book ... Fahrenheit 451.
And IIRC, the advent of now forgotten digital tape was to be the final nail in the coffin.
Have finally bought a LIV Zen 2TB CD Ripping Music Server NAS to my SuperUniti and are very satisfied. But what do people do with their cds selling them or keeping them?
Do they make a product of this ilk for sale in the USA? (I looked and had trouble finding; only saw UK results.)
The US Supreme Court's decision in the "Betamax" case established that home videotaping of tv shows for "time shifting" is "Fair Use" under the US copyright laws, and I would absolutely expect that ripping of a cd for home use replay via a streamer instead of a cd player would be judged similarly. I think that the facts are more similar than different. (I am assuming that the home owner retains the cd.)
It's legal in the UK and USA to rip a copy for your own storage and/or listening purposes - essentially you have bought the right to one copy of the song and may change the media it is stored on - the legal issues are there if you try to give away (share) a copy, as you only own one.
The other time it becomes illegal is if you play it in a venue situation (# people, type of premises, type of event are all factors), or if you play two copies at once when you're only intending to listen to one, and another party has physical control of the media (i.e. play 2 copies, need 2 licenses).
Hope that helps.
What do I do with my CD's? I play them! Then I put them back in the rack - PC is for my FLAC rips and/or high resolution audio. I run USB @ 24/96 to the Musical Fidelity M1 DAC. Fantastic value for money and amazing resolving power.
Have finally bought a LIV Zen 2TB CD Ripping Music Server NAS to my SuperUniti and are very satisfied. But what do people do with their cds selling them or keeping them?
Do they make a product of this ilk for sale in the USA? (I looked and had trouble finding; only saw UK results.)
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/
keano, isn't it against the forum rules to post links to retailers of any kind? that was my understanding anyhow, but i'm new here!
keano, isn't it against the forum rules to post links to retailers of any kind? that was my understanding anyhow, but i'm new here!
Ups sorry if it against the rules
This goes back to tape days and vinyl, I made tapes for friends and received them from friends. The artists I liked I bought more of, the ones I didn't may have a minor loss, but then the tape usually self destructed after a few years.
Also, since I"m buying half of my CDs used at Amoeba I guess I"m guilty of ripping off the artist by not paying $16 for it. ( anybody else buy used?) I think they've already made money from the original. This is especially important to groups or companies like EMI that are redoing their collections of important works that already made a bundle decades ago.
I confess my Beatles box set was bought at Amoeba second hand. I had a nice conversation with the guy ahead of me. As I got to the counter turning in my stuff for evaluation he pulled out the box set. My eyes widened, I told the counter man I was after the Beatles and nodded to the right. He said "we don't usually do that right away". I understood. Went about a $100 buying spree and when I was called up there it was. I was ever so grateful and another $150 on my card, Amoeba made a huge profit. I had bought the Beatles albums from the late 60s and then more in 80s, I doubt JPG&R are hurting and Michael Jackson had turned the rights over to Sony to pay his debts. My thought is he should have invited Paul , Ringo , Olivia and Yoko to buy them, that would have been the right thing to do, but King of Pop was too blitzed to be magnanimous. Sony can sue me for the extra $75, or whatever.
Lets face it some key figures make fortunes and others fade away having had a great time.
I am w ith you tog, a great service to a very worthy cause.
Martyn
Worthy cause maybe, but there's no way to argue that it's legal unless you destroy the copies.
I guarantee you in the USA for sure, and maybe in the UK, they have so many laws upon laws that you break 2 or 3 a day without even knowing it.
And that's how TPTB want it...they're there just in case they need to use them.
I use fleecepack to store my cd's in.
I listen to them
It's legal in the UK and USA to rip a copy for your own storage and/or listening purposes - essentially you have bought the right to one copy of the song and may change the media it is stored on - the legal issues are there if you try to give away (share) a copy, as you only own one.
Actually, it's illegal to rip a copy of a CD in the UK even if you keep the original. Not sure anyone has ever been prosecuted for it...
There are moves afoot to look at the law but (AFAIK) nothing scheduled for debate even.
Eloise
PS. some of this may come under the Digital Economy Act that was passed at the end of the last parliament but I believe it is still prohibited under law - of course something like 59% of people THINK it is legal to rip a CD (or in the past copy vinyl to cassette, etc) with 55% of people saying they do it.
Since owning my Uniti and US my CD purchases have increased severalfold. I have nointention of getting rid of the CD's mainly because I am quite attached to my music purchases (still have all my vinyl boxed even though I no longer own a turntable), And for all the legal reasons mentioned above, but I really need to lose the jewel cases to cut down on the storage space.
Has anyone seen any kind of storage files / wallets that are capable of holding the CD, the booklet, and also the inlay from the back of the jewel case (without folding it in two) ?
Thanks for any tips!
Since owning my Uniti and US my CD purchases have increased severalfold. I have nointention of getting rid of the CD's mainly because I am quite attached to my music purchases (still have all my vinyl boxed even though I no longer own a turntable), And for all the legal reasons mentioned above, but I really need to lose the jewel cases to cut down on the storage space.
Has anyone seen any kind of storage files / wallets that are capable of holding the CD, the booklet, and also the inlay from the back of the jewel case (without folding it in two) ?
Thanks for any tips!
Yes, the fleecepacks I mentioned above are exactly that. Just Google it...
Many thanks Jumping Jack, I've never heard of or seen these before. they are just the job. Cheers!
Tog, yes there's some kind of deep rooted mental attachment to 'stuff' ! I would love to be minimalist, but it's never going to happen in my house