It's time to add a wiki to the Forum

Posted by: mutterback on 20 August 2012

Richard & all,

 

I've been enjoying the forum since buying my naim system about 18 months ago. However, there are a number of topics - FAQs and especially computer audio set up questions - that really demand a Wiki.

 

This topic especially -  "NAS Devices: Basic info for a complete novice" https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...nt/18320909148225299 - seemed very useful to a lot of people - though I'm sure the question will get asked again in a month. Why not record everyone's responses in a wiki format? Even album reviews would be awesome in wiki format.

 

I'd be very willing to contribute to the wiki myself, and frankly am getting a bit tired of seeing and replying to the same computer audio questions over and over again. This is nothing against the people asking the questions  - I just think the Forum needs a better way to record knowledge.

 

Respectfully,

mutterback

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Brian King
Excellent idea.
Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Richard Dane

Mutterbuck,

 

yes a computer audio FAQ is a good idea and one that has been on the cards for a while.  It's just a question of time and resource at the moment.  It's a huge subject and one with so many variables that hard and fast rules are often the exception.

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Hook
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Mutterbuck,

 

yes a computer audio FAQ is a good idea and one that has been on the cards for a while.  It's just a question of time and resource at the moment.  It's a huge subject and one with so many variables that hard and fast rules are often the exception.

 

Hi Richard -

 

That's why Mutterback suggested a Wiki -- the forum members and dealer community become a Naim resource for developing content.  All Naim need do is provide the structure and perhaps some guidance and collaboration.  And IMO, it should not be restricted to computer audio -- it should be about all things Naim.

 

Naim would of course issue the same caveats as Wikipedia does, and the content would not replace the more authoritative sources (manuals, official FAQ's, Naim service).  A wiki would simply provide supplemental information based on real-world experience -- easier access to the collective wisdom.  As Mutterbuck suggests, it could help to minimize the infinite repetition of the same basic questions.  And the beauty of a wikipedia is that is self-maintaining.  Through a community editing process, its content would naturally becomes more reliable over time.

 

This is worth some serious consideration IMO.

 

Hook

 

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Richard Dane

Thanks Hook.  My understanding of Wikipaedia is that anyone can do this and contribute.   Also, anyone can start it.  I can ask Paul whether Naim would wish to provide any official input, but would imagine it would have to be within Naim's hosting and control, so Wikipaedia wouldn't be the preferred vessel.  But nothing is stopping anyone else from doing it, and indeed, for many years there was the Naim FAQ that was put together by various forum members and hosted by one of the members.  It basically collated all the "Naim Lore" gathered over the years and disseminated on the early forum.  For various reasons there were certain parts that Naim was unable to officially recommend, so making it an official Naim FAQ was not possible.  The forum FAQ still exists though and once my daughter is back at school it's something I want to revise and expand.  But if it's a Wiki you want - particularly with regard to Naim-centric computer audio (which is where the need exists IMHO), then by all means go for it - and if you want me or Phil to review and edit, then I'm sure that could be possible too.

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by mutterback

Thanks Richard,

 

Hook elaborated my point perfectly.

 

I haven't looked at the Forum user agreement since I clicked "accept" - but I suspect that the current forum agreement would cover what's needed - hosted by Naim, but not official Naim content like a user manual.

 

We could go ahead and host a separate wiki, but the most valuable resource of the forum is its membership. Creating a separate login, site, pulling forum members to it etc. isn't attractive to me. 


Could you ask Hoop.la if they support wikis?  (for what its worth, I think Drupal would be a much better platform for the forum - and it includes a wiki - but that's a whole 'nother can of worms.) Much easier if Hoop.la can support a wiki already.

 

Best,

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Guido Fawkes

WiKi's need moderating ... it is not a trivial job. 

 

The problem is always opinions creeping in ... I believe there is no difference between bit perfect rips, I believe there is no difference between FLAC, WAV, AIFF and ALAC, I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows 

 

If was of the nature "You can connect your Mac Mini to your SuperNait using a digital optical cable between the audio out (headphone) on the MM and the appropriate digital input on the SN" then that's fine, but if it says you need to re-rip 5,000,000 CDs because you used XLD then .... 

 

For NASes. "how to use a Vortexbox with a Naim streamer would seem useful to me" ... why a Vortexbox is better than anything running WHS is probably not (even though ....

 

Hence my saying it needs moderating

 

Nice idea though 

Posted on: 21 August 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk

I agree with Guy, there is an art to writing and maintaining good wikis.. One extreme they become too opinionated and the other extreme they become confusingly vague and steering a path between the two is sometimes a challenge as passions from members get raised... as I like i suspect many here have expierience in supporting and moderating these elsewhere. However if there is a group that wants to go and do it, i am happy to join it to contribute and edit.

Posted on: 22 August 2012 by DaveBk

Happy to play... I agree a Wiki would be good. I would contribute/edit/moderate if required.

Posted on: 23 August 2012 by mutterback

Thank you all.


Richard - any feedback on Hoop.la's ability to host a Wiki? (I know you may be off for awhile.)

Posted on: 23 August 2012 by rich46

surely in the speed of streaming options from naim they should have more active help for customers, updates and the method of doing this should be included in this support.  the ipad app is excellent