Network He##

Posted by: NickSeattle on 07 September 2012

FWIW (love starting with that!), I am an "IT pro", and had the first civilian router in my broad acquaintance.  I am not trained in networks.  

 

Now my home network has grown to include six Macs of various vintages, two PCs, an Oppo DVD, TiVo, two AppleTVs, Squeezebox Touch, Sonos Connect + Play3 and Play5, and two networked printers.  Is it any wonder things are fighting on my network?  

 

My new demo-Sonos reports bandwidth is in too-short supply to function.  What tools do people use to effectively troubleshoot networks with too many nodes to simply shut them all off and add them back, one at a time?  Surely, an Enterprise could not tolerate a rogue node taking the whole network down!  Why should we?

 

Thanks for any suggestions, helpful or not.  

 

Nick

Posted on: 08 September 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Nick,

Ok to help I will need to use some network terms. These are some ideas to address network congestion.

a) you need to use switches as opposed to hubs or switch ports on some consumer Internet routers, as this seperate out the collision domains and can have more devices sharing the same network.

 

b) devices will only really fight if you have a lot of broadcast or multicast traffic sharing your simple network. To reduce broadcast traffic, you either need to use more efficient applications or split your network up into smaller networks using a (proper) router. Perhaps have a subnet for web browsing,office, and printing and a seperate network for audio.

 

c) if you have a lot ofmulticast traffic, then either use the seperate subnets as described above or ensure you use a router that supports IGMP and your switch(es) support IGMP snooping. This ensures the multicast is switched and not broadcast therefore increasing capacity on your network.

 

d) the least advisable method is to up your link layer to 1Gbps as opposed to 100Mbps. But if the multicast or broadcast levels are high you will be loading every device connected to your network (each has to listen and inspect the packet). This can affect PC/Laptop/NAS performance for non network related applications.

 

e) once all the above is done, the next method is to use QoS on the switch ports. But you need professional managed switches usually for this. This allows a switch to prioritise packets and mark them so your network understands its priority. This you need to understand networks to setup.

 

Simon

 

To see network traffic on an attached interface try

http://www.solarwinds.com/prod...ndwidth-monitor.aspx

Posted on: 08 September 2012 by Lumos

First the good news; yours is a tiny network load and should not present any inherent problems. For comparison, my home network supports 3 Apple TVs, an iMac, Macmini, two Macbook Pros, 7 PCs, 3 iPADs, 4 iPhones, alarm system, 1 server, Unitiserve, Naim NDX, XBOX, Sonos, 3 Dune HD Max, 2 huge Synology DS3611 NAS units with expansion drives, a 5 bay Synology NAS for the 5 3MPixel CCTV cameras recording at full res 24/7 at 25fps, a RAID 0 Qnap SSD NAS serving cover art for the three Dunes, networked TV, AV processors and a bunch of other stuff I am forgetting. All this is one one simple network with no segmentation and no subnets. It happily streams three consecutive Bluray movies whilst the CCTVs are all recording. A reasonable network can support massive bandwidth. 

 

Sonos uses its own wireless mesh network, and if it is reporting low bandwidth I would suspect that you need another bridge as the distance between Sonos devices is too great.

Posted on: 08 September 2012 by DaveBk

So, is the concensus that this is a Sonos mesh network issue, rather than the wifi or wired?

 

Does Sonos have any built in diagnostics?

Posted on: 13 September 2012 by NickSeattle

I think BitPerfect was fighting with Sonos.  All is well.  Sonos seems to run fine alongside iTunes and Logitech Media Server without BitPerfect.  

 

Thanks all.

 

Nick