The movie causing the recent Middle East chaos

Its rumoured to have been made in US by someone originally from Israel who is on a mission to make the world aware of the short comings of Islam & the myths around the profit Mohammad. 

That said it more or less clear that the more extreme in those parts of the Islamic world either took this as an opportunity to instigate these protests or they had it all preplanned for the anniversary of 9/11.

It just a tradegy that a lot of innocent peole have suffered as a result.

I see there is "fury at kate topless pictures" doesn't seem to be crowd of people fire bombing the french newspaper offices though.

As for the film, "Never knowing under-react" as it says in the muslim bible.

The peoples of Libya, Egypt and other parts of the Islamic world have some very fundamental misunderstandings of how things work in the US.

These riots started because a small, radical fringe was able to convince some mobs that this movie trailer was somehow sanctioned by the US government. The mobs truly do not understand that it is the creation of just a few people, living in the US, and operating under the protection of their first ammendment right to free speech.

Would anyone in Europe, or in the non-Islamic Asian nations expect the US to censor some publication or video that ridiculed them?   Of course not.  Outside of the Islamic world, there seems to be a greater understanding that freedom of speech, freedom of religious choice, and so on, are the principles the US was founded upon.  Outside of the Islamic world, there does not appear to be this same problem distinguishing between one citzen's opinion and official US policy.

And of course it does not help that these radical Islamic elements are on a mission to convert every last person on earth to their religion, and that their means of doing so is jihad ("holy war").

The current US policy is to help stabilize and support moderate Islamic nations that, minimally, give their people the right to vote.  That's why the US supported the Egyption opposition as opposed to the Mubarek dictatorship.  Ditto for Libya. The hope is that most Egyptions, and most Libyans, and most of the Islamic world favors peace and prosperity, and will eventually help to marginalize the extremists.  Obviously this a long game, and in the short term there will be problems, and even more tragedies like we saw in Libya.  But what other strategy makes any sense?

I shudder to think what will happen if Romney is elected, and we return to the NeoCon policies of the Bush years. 70% of Americans are tired of war, and want our troops home from Afghanistan now.  The other 30% root for the US Military like it was some sort of sports team.  They don't mind the US fighting wars on foreign soil given, of course, that it is someone else's money being spent, and someone else's sons and daughters being killed.

There are days, like today, where being optimistic about the future can be a real challenge!

Hook

egypt  dont under stand tourist will just keep away .they need tourists

I assume the morons who made the film are really pleased that they have caused the deaths of  a number of innocent people?

That said, I really don't understand why so many of the followers of Islam are so touchy about their religion. It's just another belief system. If they want to follow it, then fine but I don't see what right they have to get upset just because other people don't want to. Can it all be blamed on ignorance?

steve

If so, then presumably they know the name or names of the culprits.

Why not publish their names ? I wonder if they will think that their actions were so clever when they realise half of the muslim world wants to ring their neck/s.

The real ID of the individual or group is as yet unknown. 

A US news agency just posted ..... 

The producer of the anti-Muslim film that sparked rioting is in hiding, Steve Klein, a California consultant to the movie said. .........  the anti-Muslim activist said he has been in contact with the film's producer. "He's absolutely terrified because they'll kill him if they find him"  

The filmmaker has not been named or identified, but a Sam Bacile (pseudonym) has taken credit. Bacile described himself as a real estate developer who received $5 million from Jewish donors to fund the project.  Its pretty certain Bacile is a Coptic Christian identified as Nakoula Basseley Nakoula from Los Angeles.

Google Steve Klein & you get a good idea what its all about. 

I can't recall if "The Life of Brian" caused such extreme action, perhaps it did.

Perhaps Prof Richard Dawkins could visit these Islamic Fundamentalists and help them to balance their beliefs with rational science.

Why is it that reasonable people such as those of us on this Forum, have to put up with extremists ?

Or are we the extremists ?

Cheers

Don

Don no we're not the extremists as you well know. The Life of Brian caused no significant Muslim protests as far as I remember but it caused outrage among the Catholic dominated Glasgow Corporation who banned it. We had to travel ten miles to see it elsewhere. Ludicrous.

This is my favourite quote of the year so far.

Why is it that reasonable people such as those of us on this Forum, have to put up with extremists ?

The people who made the film may be vile idiots, but they didn't cause anything. Those that are offended choose to be so. And they choose their actions.

"I shudder to think what will happen if Romney is elected, and we return to the NeoCon policies of the Bush years."

The NeoCons are still running things - you can't slide a credit card between Romney & Obama's foreign policies. 

As for this movie - it looks like a bad high-school project.  Even the uber-left NPR has had to admit that the movie is likely an excuse for acts that were long contemplated; the Libyan embassy attack was apparently a well coordinated operation, bearing none of the signs of a spontaneous uprising run amok.

Quite a lot of people died from over laughing in their armchairs : (