Superuniti or Majik DSM?

Posted by: Roman Kozyrev on 17 November 2012

Hi! I'm going to purchase streamer to drive my Sonus Faber Cremona M in new living room. Auditioned SU and was happy with its sound for my taste (jazz, some classics, female vocals). Friend of mine suggested to consider Linn Majik DSM... Listened to it at local dealer with linn isobaric speakers and was not impressed, but looks like speakers were the reason.... No chace to listen to MDSM with SF Cremona combo locally, I'm looking for others experience of it. Hdmi inputs, AirPlay at MDSM looks useful, shall I give Linn a try or hit the deal with SU and forget any temptations. Thanks in advance
Posted on: 18 November 2012 by jobseeker

I'm not sure anyone can properly answer that for you. The Linn has some features and functionality that the Superuniti does not (connectivity, upsampling etc.) and there will be some operational differences in the control apps. I guess you need to decide if that has any bearing on your decision. It is very difficult to compare the sound of two different items in different rooms and with different loudspeakers. Getting each for home trial would be your only way to be sure.

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by garyi

Get the naim.

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by Prubast
Originally Posted by garyi:

Get the naim.

+1 You will not have any regrets if you get the SU

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by jobseeker

I certainly don't have any regrets (even though the damn thing has had to go back to Naim for investigations into a problem).

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by Roman Kozyrev
Thanks for all your replies so far... Actually, it's true that only getting both items into my living room and compare them directly with speakers attached playing same files will give an answer, BUT ... I'm in Russia and such options are very limited to me, even SU is not available per ce, only for pre-ordering. That was the reason to try to find somebody with similar experience for an advice....
Posted on: 18 November 2012 by APT

I listened to them both when I was auditioning a SU and NDX/ supernait .The dealer played the linn majik DSM, akurate DSM , the SU and the NDX/ SN. Speakers used were PMC twenty.23s. To my ears the Linn Majik DSM was the worst sounding piece of kit by a long margin. So I would get the SU.

Regards.

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by Roman Kozyrev
Thanks, this info seems to be useful as I also was not impressed by linn sound. For the clarity of experiment I' ll try to listen both subjects but so far still think about SU
Posted on: 18 November 2012 by totemphile
Originally Posted by APT:

I listened to them both when I was auditioning a SU and NDX/ supernait .The dealer played the linn majik DSM, akurate DSM , the SU and the NDX/ SN. Speakers used were PMC twenty.23s. To my ears the Linn Majik DSM was the worst sounding piece of kit by a long margin. So I would get the SU.

Regards.

APT - how would you describe the comparison SU vs. NDX/SN? Looking at your profile I see you went for the latter. Did you find the margin to be huge or rather subtle? Thanks tp

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by APT

TP,

I felt the sound of the SU on its own was great but when I compared it to the NDX/SN combo , I found the music to have more depth and warmer. I instantly preferred the NDX/ supernait. It was not a decision I had to think too much about.

Regards

 

 

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by jobseeker

At the price difference, I should jolly well hope so

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by paulreso1
I have also had recent demos of the Linn and Naim streamers. I am also looking for new speakers. My conclusion is that both the Linn and the Naim can sound good with the right speaker. For Naim I liked the ProAc D18, while for the DSM I much preferred the Focal 1008 be stand mounter. I found Linn's own Majik speakers (I have heard them all) to be quite disappointing with the DSM. So my advice is check out the speakers work well with whichever streamer solution you go for Paul
Posted on: 19 November 2012 by Roman Kozyrev
Are there somebody with Cremona M experience with SU or Linn DSM?
Posted on: 19 November 2012 by DSA140
Originally Posted by Roman Kozyrev:
Are there somebody with Cremona M experience with SU or Linn DSM?

Not the SU but have had a NDX at home dem with Cremona M, also a fully acktiv MDSM with Linn 140 speakers. To me the Linn sounded warm / soft with no real bite, emotion or reverb. I suspect some with like the sound as being 'nice'.

 

For me no contest.........it was the NDX but with the SF Toy Towers 

Posted on: 20 November 2012 by Paul@HiFi Lounge

I know there are guys out there who love their Linn, which is fair enough, but their streamers really have never done it for me, at my last job, before setting up HiFi lounge, I did many Linn v Naim streamer demo's and 9 out of 10 went with Naim, they are just so much more musical, not so sterile. When setting up this place a few months ago I had a clean sheet of paper when it came to brands, I was really desperate to get Naim on board but Linn never entered my thoughts, so I guess I chose Naim over Linn 

 

Go with the SU Roman, it's a fabulous bit of kit, you won't be disappointed. 

Posted on: 20 November 2012 by Roman Kozyrev
Originally Posted by Paul@HiFi Lounge:

I know there are guys out there who love their Linn, which is fair enough, but their streamers really have never done it for me, at my last job, before setting up HiFi lounge, I did many Linn v Naim streamer demo's and 9 out of 10 went with Naim, they are just so much more musical, not so sterile. When setting up this place a few months ago I had a clean sheet of paper when it came to brands, I was really desperate to get Naim on board but Linn never entered my thoughts, so I guess I chose Naim over Linn 

 

Go with the SU Roman, it's a fabulous bit of kit, you won't be disappointed. 

Thanks Paul, Your opinion is of high value for me - 9 out of 10! Were there any preferable loudspeakers to work with Naim for those 9?

Posted on: 20 November 2012 by AMA

Roman, SU with Cremona M sounds very balanced and very musical. 

 

I auditioned this setup in a small room and the speakers were against the wall which reinforced the bass.

 

I was surprised how convincing and controlled the system was.

 

All my previous auditions of Cremona M with anything else never left any chance for these speakers. I think Cremona M is tricky but with a right amplification and room setup it can show its best. Naim is surely a good match.

 

Majik DS is a bit lifeless to my liking and I expect Majik DSM will carry the same character.

 

It seems that you are looking for integrated solution but if you consider ADS this will be a very different story. It's much more open, transparent and detailed sound than SU and very musical too. But again I prefer to run ADS with Naim amplification especially with Cremona M.

 

As for the Paul's opinion on "many" Linn streamers -- it seems that "many" does not include KDS/1.

 

Would be very weird to call it sterile 

 

Besides, ADS/1 can win the hearts of many naimophiles too.

 

Posted on: 21 November 2012 by Stefan Vogt
Many thanks, APT,
this is most reassuring!
Stefan
 
Originally Posted by APT:

TP,

I felt the sound of the SU on its own was great but when I compared it to the NDX/SN combo , I found the music to have more depth and warmer. I instantly preferred the NDX/ supernait. It was not a decision I had to think too much about.

Regards

 

 

Posted on: 21 November 2012 by Russ

Roman: I have not heard the Linn, and my experience lies solely with the Superuniti, but I do love it and the sound it makes with my speakers.  Best regards and good luck with your search.

 

Russ

Posted on: 23 November 2012 by Roman Kozyrev
Thanks to all! Presuming we are on Naim forum, most of you prefer SU. So I'm gonna try it! Will place my order next week and will report as it will arrive and will be audited. Gonna use Qnap 419U with it as NAS and iTunes server. Any comments?
Posted on: 04 January 2013 by VadimDecember

Roman you have already purchased your equipment?
How does it sounds? Maybe I'll buy the same thing (:

(i'm from russia too)

Posted on: 05 January 2013 by Roman Kozyrev
Hi. I'm settled happily with Superuniti and Totem Hawk. Super combo!!! Cremona turns out too big for my room.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by AMA

How small is your room if Cremona M does not fit? 

Posted on: 07 January 2013 by Roman Kozyrev

Hi, My room is 36 sq meters, but as Cremona requires some certain place around it doesnt fit in harmonically... as installation place is not in the middle

Posted on: 30 September 2013 by Roman Kozyrev
Occaitionally found this thread of almost year ago. SU with my Totem Hawks had been broked in a lot time ago and still amazes me! Listen to it every day for several hours... Enjoying every note!
Posted on: 01 October 2013 by hungryhalibut

That is very good to hear. I bought a SuperUniti four months ago and use it with PMC GB1i speakers. Like you I listen every day and really enjoy it. I added a Powerline to mine, which made a good improvement.