What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol.IX)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 01 January 2013

With 2013 upon us, it's time to start a fresh thread.  I've gone back to an earlier thread title because often the "why" is the most interesting part of the post.

Anyway, links:
Volume VIII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...nt/12970396056050819
Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1
Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229
Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495
Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042
Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474
Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043
Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ewemon
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Florestan

François Couperin (1668-1733):  Iddo Bar-Shaï (Piano) 

 

Les Ombres Errantes

Soeur Monique

Le Tic-Toc-Choc, ou Les Maillotins

La Muse-Plantine

Le Rossignol-en-Amour

Double du Rossignol

Les Petits Ages - La Muse Naissante

Les Petits Ages - L'Enfantine

Les Tambourins

La Misterieuse

La Petite Pince-Sans-rire

La Logiviere

Le Dodo, ou L'Amour au Berceau

La Commere

Les Languers Tendres

Les Vergers fleuris

Les Rozeaux

L'Engageante

L'Ame-en peine

Les Moissonneurs

La Bandoline

Les Fauvetes Plaintives

Le Turbulent

La Couperin

Les Baricades Misterieuses

 

...before sunrise solitude.

 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ewemon
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ewemon
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by lutyens

 

On vinyl having arrived with my brother from america yesterday. Up there with his best. Sierra is one of his very finest songs.

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Haim Ronen

 

2. Boccherini: String Quintet in C Major, G.349 - Andante con moto
3. Boccherini: String Quintet in C Major, G.349 - Minuetto con grazia - Trio - Minuetto da capo
4. Boccherini: String Quintet in C Major, G.349 - Allegro assai
5. Boccherini: String Quintet in C Major, G.349 - Rondeau: Allegretto moderato
6. Schubert: String Quintet in C Major, D.956 - Allegro ma non troppo
7. Schubert: String Quintet in C Major, D.956 - Adagio
8. Schubert: String Quintet in C Major, D.956 - Scherzo: Presto - Trio: Andante sostenuto
9. Schubert: String Quintet in C Major, D.956 - Allegretto


First track is just applaud. They probably should have added another track in the end for bowing and shaking hands. 
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Florestan

Franz Liszt (1811-1886):  Jean Claude Pennetier (piano), Vox Clamantis, Jaan-Eik Tulve

 

Via Crucis (Version für Chor & Klavier)

 

Franz Liszt - one of the most important and influential artists of the 19th century (in my humble opinion).  Like him or not, I do not think there are very many in his league with the ability to translate human emotion into a musical language (which is the essence of great music and what distinguishes music from technique or just notes really).  We have his youth, his wild days, his romantic days and his end days where he gave up everything worldly and eventually secluded himself in an abbey near Rome to contemplate life.

 

A wondrous recording if you can stand quiet reflection and peace within your own solitude.  There is too much to talk about here so I will make most of my comments based only on the Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen piano piece which is referred to here by S 179.  First off, I believe this is the wrong reference.  Liszt wrote a Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen - Praeludium nach J. S. Bach in 1859.  This is the S 179 and not the one recorded here.   It is a short, quiet piece that builds and builds with just one main climax in the end that reaches its apex.  This is the piece that should have definitely been included on this recording as it is perfect for this theme.  It is also one of my own favourite pieces that has had a profound effect on me.

 

Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen is of course, a reference taken directly from Bach's early Cantata BWV 12.  If roughly means weeping, wailing, lamenting, fearing.  Liszt wrote the much longer Variationen über das Motif von Bach: 'Weinen, Klagen' S 180 in 1862 and they come to us as a reflection of Liszt working through the tragic loss of his daughter Blandine and coming to terms with his own suffering.  

 

From the booklet notes with this CD, Klará Jirsová says it best as follows, "Here he depicts the differnet faces of suffering - tears, groans, distress of the heart, poignant sorrow, desire to be free of misfortune - by basing his discourse on the sad chromatic line of the opening chorus of Johann Sebastian Bach's Cantata BWV 12, which is very similar to the 'Crucifixus' of the B minor mass".  

 

The last variation here also quotes the ending of BWV 12 with the choral 'Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan,'  which roughly translates as 'What God does, that is done good.'   A remarkable outcome for such devastating circumstances.  Basically we are reading Liszt's diary and as with all great composers it is like meeting these characters from a better time in history when this wouldn't be possible in reality.

 

Vox Clamantis and Jaan-Eik Tulve offer an almost perfect choral rendering.  The recording quality is very nice.  Overall, a specialist recording probably aimed at people like me who love Liszt and especially relish and understand his late period.

 

Best Regards,

Doug

 

 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ragman
Originally Posted by Florestan:

Franz Liszt (1811-1886):  Jean Claude Pennetier (piano), Vox Clamantis, Jaan-Eik Tulve

 

Via Crucis (Version für Chor & Klavier)

 

Franz Liszt - one of the most important and influential artists of the 19th century (in my humble opinion).  Like him or not, I do not think there are very many in his league with the ability to translate human emotion into a musical language (which is the essence of great music and what distinguishes music from technique or just notes really).  We have his youth, his wild days, his romantic days and his end days where he gave up everything worldly and eventually secluded himself in an abbey near Rome to contemplate life.

 

A wondrous recording if you can stand quiet reflection and peace within your own solitude.  There is too much to talk about here so I will make most of my comments based only on the Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen piano piece which is referred to here by S 179.  First off, I believe this is the wrong reference.  Liszt wrote a Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen - Praeludium nach J. S. Bach in 1859.  This is the S 179 and not the one recorded here.   It is a short, quiet piece that builds and builds with just one main climax in the end that reaches its apex.  This is the piece that should have definitely been included on this recording as it is perfect for this theme.  It is also one of my own favourite pieces that has had a profound effect on me.

 

Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen is of course, a reference taken directly from Bach's early Cantata BWV 12.  If roughly means weeping, wailing, lamenting, fearing.  Liszt wrote the much longer Variationen über das Motif von Bach: 'Weinen, Klagen' S 180 in 1862 and they come to us as a reflection of Liszt working through the tragic loss of his daughter Blandine and coming to terms with his own suffering.  

 

From the booklet notes with this CD, Klará Jirsová says it best as follows, "Here he depicts the differnet faces of suffering - tears, groans, distress of the heart, poignant sorrow, desire to be free of misfortune - by basing his discourse on the sad chromatic line of the opening chorus of Johann Sebastian Bach's Cantata BWV 12, which is very similar to the 'Crucifixus' of the B minor mass".  

 

The last variation here also quotes the ending of BWV 12 with the choral 'Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan,'  which roughly translates as 'What God does, that is done good.'   A remarkable outcome for such devastating circumstances.  Basically we are reading Liszt's diary and as with all great composers it is like meeting these characters from a better time in history when this wouldn't be possible in reality.

 

Vox Clamantis and Jaan-Eik Tulve offer an almost perfect choral rendering.  The recording quality is very nice.  Overall, a specialist recording probably aimed at people like me who love Liszt and especially relish and understand his late period.

 

Best Regards,

Doug

 

 

Would you recommend this Recording?

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Florestan
Originally Posted by ragman:

Would you recommend this Recording?

 

Hi Ragman, as I tried to convey near the end, I would wholeheartedly recommend this recording to those who would listen to or seek music that is reverential, inward looking, slow paced, thematic with strong religious overtones and like Liszt and/or Bach's Cantata's / themes and even going back to Gregorian chant to some degree.  The range is wide going from a few solo piano works to the choral aspects.  These are my views but with fair warning, I don't think this is for the uninitiated if any of the above is not your thing.  For myself, after just one listen while preparing a nice breakfast this morning, I found I really enjoyed this recording but then again, I know and love this music and knew what I was to expect.

 

Best Regards,

Doug

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Steve C

 

On Vinyl 

because I keep hearing that bloody ford ad 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Chords

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX9fn2iUI4

 

One of the first oratorios called 'Opera'

Excellent record.

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by VladtheImpala

Spent the last week-ish ripping a stack of CD/SACD's from a spot of retail therapy.......

 

Today's listening:

 

 

and

 

 

Not such a big fan of the harpsichord, though this is quite good.

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by naim_nymph

 

Enjoying my 3rd play...

 

Debs

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Lloydy

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by teww

On CD

cover

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Florestan

Jennifer Pike (Violin), Tom Poster (Piano)

 

Sonata for Violin and Piano no 1 in G major, Op. 78 by Johannes Brahms

Sonata for Violin and Piano no 1 in A minor, Op. 105 by Robert Schumann 

Three Romances for Violin and Piano, Op. 22 by Clara Wieck Schumann

 

The cherub faced Jennifer holding her 1708 Matteo Goffriller.  If Mona Lisa were smart enough she too would be holding a violin but she isn't.  I think this photo would give ol' Mona a run for the money.  Besides, it passes the eye test.  Where ever you stand her eyes follow you around the room.  Oh, both Jennifer Pike and Tom Poster are fabulous together here...

 

 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by naim_nymph

 

playing the Bononcini disc of this super 5 x CD box-set : )

 

Giovanni Bononcini (1670-1747)

 

La Nemica d'Armore fatta armante - Serenate à 3

 

ENSEMBLE 415 ~ Chiara Banchini

 

 

A pleasant operatic work of much voiced passion and sincerity with delicate and detailed accompany of violins, cellos, an archlute, a theorbe, doublebass, chef de chant, harpsichord and organ continuo…

Stays beautiful from start to finish : )

 

Debs

 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by kuma
Originally Posted by EJS:

How's the sound, Kuma? All CD issues so far suffer from a grand that sounds more like a small upright. To me the technical sound quality pushes too much of Kempff's artistry into the realm of blandness.



Ej,

I do not own any CDs from this series, but I can see either later repress or CD versions get stripped of colours and body.

I got lucky on this *red Stereo* pressing which usually a lot more natural sounding as far as DG pressings from 60s go. That said, this recording doesn't have much of low end blooms or low keys resonance as contemporary closed mic'd today's recording. Tape hiss is highish and on the quiet passages the piano sounds a tad far but the tonal colour remains natural. This pressing has an excellent clarity with lovely note decays but never dry. ( Some of the Pollini pressings from the 70s are anemic and brittle sounding for instance )

 

I don't find them *bland* at all. In fact it has a lot of colours, subtle inflections and textures that keep me interested all the way through. His unassuming style gives a fresh spontaneous liveliness.

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by DrMark

I think this is his best:

 

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by joerand

 

Dire Straits. Love Over Gold. On vinyl from 1982 . A great recording/production for critical listening with HPs.

Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ewemon
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by ewemon
Posted on: 19 May 2013 by Steve C

 

On Vinyl

Posted on: 20 May 2013 by naim_nymph

2 x CD (p)2001 ©2004 Glossa Music : )

 

Some slices need some chewing over but I do prefer wholemeal : )

 

Debs

Posted on: 20 May 2013 by Bert Schurink
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:

2 x CD (p)2001 ©2004 Glossa Music : )

 

Some slices need some chewing over but I do prefer wholemeal : )

 

Debs

Heard this one on Amazon or Spotify and bought it as it smashed me in the corner. At home it turned out to be less great than I exxpected, but still somehow a special setting. Enjoy...