What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol.IX)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 01 January 2013

With 2013 upon us, it's time to start a fresh thread.  I've gone back to an earlier thread title because often the "why" is the most interesting part of the post.

Anyway, links:
Volume VIII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...nt/12970396056050819
Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1
Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229
Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495
Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042
Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474
Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043
Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290

Posted on: 28 October 2013 by EJS
Originally Posted by Agricola:

Dear Ej,

 

To give you a clue how much I love the Symphonies of Sibelius, here is a short list of the recordings I have. I am not going to order them in favourite first, but you will find a variety of styles, but all are occasionally wildly passionate. Colin Davies seems to miss the passionate clinch in this music in my view, even in the Boston Symphony Orchestra recordings, even though these get tremendous reviews. I once did own this venerable Philips set, before getting fed up with it.

 

Complete Cycles: John Barbirolli, Paavo Berglund, Anthony Collins.

 

Symphonies 1, 2, 3 and 5: Robert Kajanus

 

Symphonies 4, 6 and 7: Thomas Beecham

 

Symphony No. 7: Adrian Boult.

 

I would think that the most cerebral of these are the Berglund recordings, but they have a cumulative power and sense of cumulative tempo that compels, and in the Third Symphony actually equals the amazing performance that Kajanus recorded in about 1932 - both have slower tempi than average, to considerable advantage given the long term power that is generated - just a personal view though. I suppose my favourite individual performances are:

 

Symphony No One, Kajanus, and then Collins.

Two, Barbirolli and Kajanus equally

Three Kajanus,and then very close, Berglund

Four, Beecham, and very close Barbirolli

Five, Barbirolli

Six, Barbirolli,and very close Beecham

Seven, [easy favourite performance] Boult, and then second [by a fair margin] Collins.

 

As you will see the ancient Kajanus recordings are very much my overall favourites, but the Fifth suffers from terrible orchestral ensemble. I am guessing that the sessions for this were too short, before the aged conductor had to return to Finland after his short time with the London Symphony Orchestra for EMI on both English Columbia and HMV in different Symphonies!

 

I don't think any of the Berglund recordings are actual favourites [overall] for any of them,and yet, I listen to all of these recordings, unlike the Anthony Collins, where the Symphonies Two and Three in particular miss the point somewhat. Too hyped in the Second and too fast in the Third.

 

I find that if I want a steady speed but still fantastically passionate performance, say in the Second or Fifth, then Barbirolli is an immensely enjoyable conductor, but again. I listen to all of his cycle over time.

 

I used to also have the famous Boston Symphony recordings under Serge Kousevitsky of The Second and the Fifth, but grew tired of them eventually. Very fine playing, but lacking the dynamism of Kajanus for example - not merely a question of playing loud and soft, but the dynamism in the phrase quite as much. Dynamism and expressive power is not equal to high velocity in Sibelius, and in this respect I still get a tremendous kick out of Paavo Berglund's performances.

 

Perhaps - as I get on so well with Berglund's Sibelius, I should take a punt on his Kulervo!

 

I hope that post was not too boring, dear EJ!

 

ATB from George

 

 

Hi George,

 

Thanks, not boring at all. I will try to get some of these as I work myself (backwards in time) through Sibelius. Kajanus definitely on the list, and I'm intrigued by your mention of Boult's seventh.

 

Cheers

 

EJ

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Mward2205
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Great album. I heard it 2 days ago for the 1st time, and I thought I put on Metallica's "Kill 'em all" by mistake.

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by kuma

Berglund/Helsinki Philharmonic Sibelius Symphony 4&7. '84 Recording.

 

EJ & George had me curious enough for me to pull this album out.

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Steve C

The Groundhogs - Split on vinyl

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Steve C

The Groundhogs-Thank Christ For The Bomb vinyl

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Quad 33

This is my album of 2013 by a long way, there is not a bad track on it....... Tony2011  have you listened to it yet?

 

 Graham

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Mward2205
Originally Posted by Quad 33:

This is my album of 2013 by a long way, there is not a bad track on it....... Tony2011  have you listened to it yet?

 

 Graham

They slowed down, a lot. But the songs are good.

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by EJS

 

This second hand purchase arrived in a dirty condition, and after a couple of cleanups I decided to rip and burn a new copy. Fortunately it plays perfectly. It's not difficult to imagine what made EMI/Virgin pick him up - he's hugely persuasive in these works.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Steve J

This 45rpm vinyl is musical high fidelity at it's best. Lovely album.

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by Quad 33:

This is my album of 2013 by a long way, there is not a bad track on it....... Tony2011  have you listened to it yet?

 

 Graham

Hi, Graham. I have only seen a couple of videos but have not listened to their latest offering. I do have their first album but have never been much into them but I do see a lot of members have played and recommended it tthough. I'll try to get hold of a copy before commiting to buying the album.

 

Tony

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Steve C:

The Groundhogs-Thank Christ For The Bomb vinyl

 

Which one do you prefer Steve?

 

I'm currently listening to TCFTB (Blue Liberty). 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Kevin-W

Vinyl

 

Songs for Drell - Reed/Cale

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Steve J

Liberty vinyl. Probably my favourite Groundhogs LP. 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Huwge

Vinyl from 1986, he's done a lot since then... (analogue recording, not digital as shown here)

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Iver van de Zand

Eva Cassidy - Time After Time

 

Eva Cassidy - Time After Time

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Tony2011

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Quad 33
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Hi, Graham. I have only seen a couple of videos but have not listened to their latest offering. I do have their first album but have never been much into them but I do see a lot of members have played and recommended it tthough. I'll try to get hold of a copy before commiting to buying the album.

 

Tony

Hi Tony.

 

The new AM album is nothing like their 1st.  It is a far more mature album,  it is a mixture of thumping bass notes, intricate vocal layering and fabulously acute wordsmithery. I think it shows the Monkeys at the peak of their powers. Could be the album of the decade! IMO

 

Graham.

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Kevin-W

Vinyl

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by Quad 33:
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Hi, Graham. I have only seen a couple of videos but have not listened to their latest offering. I do have their first album but have never been much into them but I do see a lot of members have played and recommended it tthough. I'll try to get hold of a copy before commiting to buying the album.

 

Tony

Hi Tony.

 

The new AM album is nothing like their 1st.  It is a far more mature album,  it is a mixture of thumping bass notes, intricate vocal layering and fabulously acute wordsmithery. I think it shows the Monkeys at the peak of their powers. Could be the album of the decade! IMO

 

Graham.

Graham,

 

Phew! I know you seem to have an impeccable taste in music (it takes one to know one! ) but that sort of statement is very brave.  Saw  them on Jools and still not convinced. Sorry!

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by dav301

On CD:-

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Tony2011

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by apye!

 

On vinyl, 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by apye!

Next...

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by apye!

Now for something different..

 

 

Porcupine Tree - Signify 2xLP

 

Posted on: 29 October 2013 by Iver van de Zand

Diana Panton - To Brazil With Love ........... brazilian smooth Jazz !!

 

Diana Panton - To Brazil with Love