NEW NAIM PRODUCT LAUNCH

Posted by: Cbr600 on 04 January 2013

Just seen on Facebook that Naim have posted an article about new hifi show in Vegas and the launch of a new product.

Not another new item, I hear you say !

Any ideas what it might be ?
Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Marky Mark

As in more expensive = must be good?

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by fixedwheel

Obviously I didn't make myself clear when I pointed out that the NAP100 is the same total output of 200w into 4ohm as the NAP200

 

Into 8ohm it is a very different story, so was idly speculating as to why.

 

John

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Marky Mark

Regardless of whether it is for me, I think this is a killer product. Well done Naim.

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by totemphile
Originally Posted by Marky Mark:

Interested to know where the pre section of the dac-pre sits within the current pre hierarchy. Hoping 282 level plus.

Sure, 552 level, minimum....

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Marky Mark
Originally Posted by fixedwheel:

Obviously I didn't make myself clear when I pointed out that the NAP100 is the same total output of 200w into 4ohm as the NAP200

 

Into 8ohm it is a very different story, so was idly speculating as to why.

 

John

Read its dual mono btw.

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Peter_RN

Well, that was all very exciting wasn’t it?

 

Now what can we expect (or should I say hope for) at Bristol?

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Cbr600

Very disappointed with this launch.

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

They seem to be focussing on the domestic market and not giving sufficient attention to the high end amplifier kit.

They are after all supposed to be world class hifi.

Seems they are moving more towards Amstrad style !!

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by BigH47
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

to moreVery disappointed with this launch.

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

Footballers have enough overpriced stuff to spend their money on.

 

Meanwhile back in the real world.

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

They seem to be focussing on the domestic market and not giving sufficient attention to the high end amplifier kit.

Don't worry about the high end, there is Bristol yet to come. Remember also that the DAC VI and NAP 100 will bring a lot of new customers into Naim - many of whom will also get into the high end - and through their purchases help fuel the R & D effort. It's all good.

 

Jan

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by totemphile
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

to moreVery disappointed with this launch.

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

NDS/555PS-DR/552/552PS-DR/500 not big enough for you? 

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Wugged Woy
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

They seem to be focussing on the domestic market and not giving sufficient attention to the high end amplifier kit.

They are after all supposed to be world class hifi.

Why do they have to bring out 'the big guns' ? Ego ? There is no ultimate winner in the Hi-Fi game. It's so subjective. Consider, in which area  Naim do most of their business ?  Where do they make most profit ? Should they concentrate on the thousands of 'domestic market' clients or aim for nirvana for the hundred or so 'hi-end' clients ? They should TRY to satisfy both sets of clients of course, but in my opinion it's clear where priorities should, and I think do, lie.

 

P.S. I can't afford hi-end gear ..............

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by Wugged Woy:
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

They seem to be focussing on the domestic market and not giving sufficient attention to the high end amplifier kit.

They are after all supposed to be world class hifi.

Why do they have to bring out 'the big guns' ? Ego ? There is no ultimate winner in the Hi-Fi game. It's so subjective. Consider, in which area  Naim do most of their business ?  Where do they make most profit ? Should they concentrate on the thousands of 'domestic market' clients or aim for nirvana for the hundred or so 'hi-end' clients ? They should TRY to satisfy both sets of clients of course, but in my opinion it's clear where priorities should, and I think do, lie.

 

P.S. I can't afford hi-end gear ..............

"Passion"

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by VladtheImpala

These are excellent products for the current marketplace - just what many people are looking for and using sources (computers) that most people already have. Hasn't the high-end been expanded with the NDS and modded with the DR-upgrade? It's also a little disengenuous to take pride in the longevity of high-end Naim product lines AND complain that they aren't rushing out new ones!

 

Naim products are aspirational and this type of offering will increase their user-base. I had aspired to having one - I'm in my mid-fifties and have only just been able to afford a Uniti 2. I'm so pleased with it that,if finances permitted, I'd certainly be looking to stay with Naim.

 

Regards

Vlad

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Wugged Woy
Originally Posted by Cbr600:
Originally Posted by Wugged Woy:
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

About time Naim brought out the big guns at the high end.

They seem to be focussing on the domestic market and not giving sufficient attention to the high end amplifier kit.

They are after all supposed to be world class hifi.

Why do they have to bring out 'the big guns' ? Ego ? There is no ultimate winner in the Hi-Fi game. It's so subjective. Consider, in which area  Naim do most of their business ?  Where do they make most profit ? Should they concentrate on the thousands of 'domestic market' clients or aim for nirvana for the hundred or so 'hi-end' clients ? They should TRY to satisfy both sets of clients of course, but in my opinion it's clear where priorities should, and I think do, lie.

 

P.S. I can't afford hi-end gear ..............

"Passion"


CBR600, you are a romantic . But sorry, business is business. Otherwise, why bother with the lower order..... 

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Cbr600

Just thought I would toss in the odd grenade !

Posted on: 08 January 2013 by Harry
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:

Hasn't the high-end been expanded with the NDS and modded with the DR-upgrade?

 

I think so.

 

What doesn't interest me doesn't interest me. But why criticise it? 

 

I expect they'll sell the new products by the bucket load and take sales off the likes of Rega, Cyrus, Audiolab. Exposure, MF, Arcam, Marantz et al in the process. This would seem to be a more fertile ground for raising income, not to mention locking life long fans of the make into long term ownership and upgrades. From which we will all benefit. If the R&D for the CD555 for example, came exclusively from a slice of the sales generated by the CDS3, much as we love the latter, the former would not exist.

Posted on: 09 January 2013 by Shanks
I think this is a somewhat sensitive topic, and hence polarized opinions are likely to disturb one camp against the other. Hence I will try to be objective.
The wider question to me is where is Naim going. From a strategic standpoint, do they want to remain focussed in the middle to higher tier segments, or do they want to go more across the value chain of potential customers.
The latter does appear more to be the case, if you consider their product launches over the last 24 months. There are ofcourse strong arguments for getting a larger share of the entry level (in Naim product heirarchy) pie. I won't repeat those that have already been made.
On the flip side, the point of "brand perception" is a rather relevant one, especially for a high end products.
I don't want to delve into this for the same reason as mentioned above
 
The question in my mind is whether Naim can be all things to all people, and still maintain the essence of what we all know as Naim...
 
As of now, they are doing it very well IMHO.
 
 
Originally Posted by Harry:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:

Hasn't the high-end been expanded with the NDS and modded with the DR-upgrade?

 

I think so.

 

What doesn't interest me doesn't interest me. But why criticise it? 

 

I expect they'll sell the new products by the bucket load and take sales off the likes of Rega, Cyrus, Audiolab. Exposure, MF, Arcam, Marantz et al in the process. This would seem to be a more fertile ground for raising income, not to mention locking life long fans of the make into long term ownership and upgrades. From which we will all benefit. If the R&D for the CD555 for example, came exclusively from a slice of the sales generated by the CDS3, much as we love the latter, the former would not exist.