New pope? Argentinian ? Hummmm God Bless Italy!?

Posted by: Tony2011 on 13 March 2013

Discuss!

Posted on: 13 March 2013 by Mike Hughes
Hiding political prisoners in your holiday home when human rights inspectors come a visiting. Discuss.
Posted on: 13 March 2013 by Mike-B

As an ex catholic now pagan I wish the new Pope the best of everything.

Problem is I do not see anything much changing

Positives are he is not of the "Vatican Mafia" so he may take on that & begin the long long process of getting that cloistered club moving towards the 21st century & maybe reduce its head-in-the-sand overbearing influence

- & good luck with that one.

He brings a more worldly experience from his life & work in South America so maybe will have a little more sympathy with the real world problems of the Catholic Church hang-ups of birth control, abortion & divorce & ………….. need I elaborate ??  

If he continues with his (reported) frugal life style it might begin to move the church away from the over the top super-high church mumbo jumbo.

Downsides are he is an older man & given the frailties of life he could be gone in less time than his predecessor.  I do not think he has either the time or inclination to tackle the big issues of the basic church structure & all the baggage that the church needs to - one day - sort out.

Posted on: 13 March 2013 by Mike Hughes
I'm endlessly fascinated as to how the Hitler Youth wasn't a problem for the last one and political prisoners are not a problem for this one.
Posted on: 13 March 2013 by naim_nymph

Is he the new Patron Saint of Malvinas?

 

The penguins should be told

 

Debs

Posted on: 13 March 2013 by TomK

Pope Frankie after pope Benny. Going for a franchise perhaps.

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Mike Hughes:
Hiding political prisoners in your holiday home when human rights inspectors come a visiting. Discuss.

And your source is????????????

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by rodwsmith

Not for the first time, I'm in complete agreement with Tim on this one:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTIorwtJbhE

 

(A tiny bit sweary)

 

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by DrMark

The "Argies" should be moaning about Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, one of the biggest morons to ever gain the title "head of state" - not the Falklands.

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by JWM

In the famous words from Casablanca, "Round up the usual suspects"...  It is little surprise that on this Forum the response has been a pretty predictable sticking the boot in.

 

I think Mike Hughes is making a 2nd, 3rd or 95th-hand allusion to an accusation that derived from the Galtieri Junta (you know, the Falklands, the 'disappeared', etc...) that in the 70s, as Jorge Bergoglio he was somehow linked to the abduction and 2-week detention of two fellow Jesuits by the Junta.  This is of course disputed.  And those who now rake up this one alleged 'blot' seem to lack the wit to work out that the Jesuits were then (and are now) a key positive force for good and voice for the poor and disenfranchised in Argentina and throughout South America (ever heard of liberation theology? the Jesuits invented it), and that therefore it would suit the Junta to propagate such claims to try to destabilise the Jesuits and thus (was the hope) their influence.

 

How about the Bergoglio's track record of describing inequality as "a social sin that cries out to Heaven" and emphasising the Church's duty to serve the poor and disenfranchised.  And his personal example of living in great simplicity.

 

(I am not a Roman Catholic.)

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by Cbr600

interesting how the new pope looks like Jim Bowen (magic, super)

 

maybe it is him?

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

interesting how the new pope looks like Jim Bowen (magic, super)

 

maybe it is him?

 

Someone on the Radio Sheffield, Toby Foster show made the same observation this morning.

Looks chubbier than the Jim Bowen I remember.

 

The former host of teatime darts gameshow Bullseye. "Keep out of the black robes and stay in the red, nothing in this celibate game for two in a bed. Now let's see what you could have won – it's a shiny Popemobile-cum-speedboat 

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Frank F:

"the Argies"

Seriously?

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by George Fredrik
Originally Posted by JWM:

 "Round up the usual suspects"... 

Dear James,

 

Quite, and why I have refrained from posting anything substantive. I remain optimistic though.

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 14 March 2013 by MDS
Originally Posted by rodwsmith:

Not for the first time, I'm in complete agreement with Tim on this one:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTIorwtJbhE

 

(A tiny bit sweary)

 

Yes, just a tad sweary but the sentiment is one that I suspect many people would have sympathise with.  And, gosh, Tim M must have worked pretty hard to memorise and deliver those lyrics as slicky as that!

MDS 

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by JWM

His cross is made of tin.

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by Don Atkinson

I doubt if there is a man or woman on this earth that hasn't committed some sort of wrong-doing. So rather than rake out the remnants of some relatively minor and unproven past error, I suggest we give the guy a chance and judge him on his future performance over the next six months.

 

cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by MDS

Yes, Don. The guy seems to me making a good start eg eschewing the pope-limo and pitching up at his hotel to settle his bill in person. Must have given his flunkies a worry.  So, yes, everyone should give him chance to see if he can break the mould.

MDS      

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by fatcat

I'm hoping he might move the Easter holiday back a month. The weather's a bit hit and miss at the end of March.

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by fatcat:

I'm hoping he might move the Easter holiday back a month. The weather's a bit hit and miss at the end of March.

He's already gone a fair way to fixing that for next year - 3 weeks later - 18th April = Good Friday and 21st April = Easter Monday. Good start IMHO, even if in the "Big Picture" this is a somewhat trivial issue, so don't expect him to sort it each and every year !

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 17 March 2013 by TomK
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Frank F:

"the Argies"

Seriously?

Don't get it.

Posted on: 18 March 2013 by Sniper

My prediction is that this new idiot will bring the Catholic Church to its knees within 5 years. He is a disastrous choice as Pope and what we are now seeing is the beginning of a 'perfect storm' scenario   Yep, it will all kick off in Argentina. 

Posted on: 18 March 2013 by naim_nymph
Originally Posted by Sniper:

...that this new idiot will bring the Catholic Church to its knees within 5 years.

 

Is that an oxymoron?

Posted on: 18 March 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:
Originally Posted by Sniper:

...that this new idiot will bring the Catholic Church to its knees within 5 years.

 

Is that an oxymoron?

I think its a pun, but bloody funny, none-the-less !

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 18 March 2013 by JamieWednesday

 

Ella no es el Mesías, que es una chica muy traviesa..!

Posted on: 26 March 2013 by JWM

A Jesuit priest kidnapped by the Argentine junta in the '70s "was not denounced" by Pope Francis as his detractors have claimed.

 

From the horse's mouth:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...by-Pope-Francis.html