Desktop Client , how to "push" music from UNITISERVE to NAIMUNITI

JR,
    Welcome to the forum.

I use an HDX so may be different, but the music you have on the pc, was it ripped from the unitiserve?

What file format is the music?  Wav? Mp3?

Is the music set up as a share or music store?

Paul

Jean-Richard,

I have owned a UnitiServe for almost two years now, and I THINK that I am correct about this -- you really cannot use the Desktop Client to "push" music to a UPnP player.  UPnP requires the player to "pull" (using your push and pull words). 

The "player mode" of the UnitiServe is not a UPnP function.  You can use that, and control playback from the UnitiServe using the DTC or nServe, but the UnitiServe must be connected differently to the pre-amp input (in this case your Naim Uniti 2) -- via optical or coax digital. 

You said this worked once -- I am thinking that somehow you were playing something on the Uniti at the same time you tried to UnitiServe in player mode with the same music and just thought you had made it work.  Or perhaps it was something with playlists . . . (where there could be an answer for you; I am not very familiar with playlists).  But simply speaking, in "player" mode you can't push the music out over your network to a UPnP client, as far as I understand.

Thank's to CBr 600 for your prompt reply,

I use two audio file formats with the UNITISERVE :

. wav for the CD's of my discotheque, ripped directly with the UnitiServe

. flac for other sources, mainly downloaded from internet

In both cases, the Desktop Client application can open them and seems to play with the Player window, I say "seems" because the cursor is moving in the advancing bar but I can't hear nothing !?

( nor from the PC himself and nor from the NAIMUniti amplifier with selected entry set to "uPnP")

So I wonder : If the Player mode of "Desktop Client" is not able to pilot the playing of music on the UnitiServe and make it audible by one of the different devices, What is his purpose and why NAIM has developped it for ??

What is shure is that I can select all my files (Wav and flac) by the front panel of the NAIMUniti and play them, but It would be more convenient to select music and make it play from the PC.

Thank's again

JR

Excuse me but I'm afraid I don't understand precisely what means "… music set up as a share or music store…"

Thank's Bart,

Maybe you're right ...

And in this case, I will be disappointed.

One feature described in NAIM documentation is the ability of UnitiServe to simultaneously send up to six different streams to network, for devices in several rooms of the home.

But In this case, the suggestion to connect differently via optical or coax digital output would be no longer valid ?

Anyway, thank you again for your answer

JR

JR,

  Im afraid my answers may confuse you rather than help, as my system differs, but here goes.

All my music is ripped by the HDX and is stored on a NAS drive.

The HDX only sees music that is stored in a music file called a share or a music store.

I can operate my music from the DTC and instruct the HDX to play music from the NAS.

Maybe an option woud be to re read your manual again and see if you can pick anything up there, or try the naim web site FAQ.

Good luck

Paul

Hi JR,

your Unitiserve should be able to find all music on your network and serve it to your streamer the Uniti2.

On Desktop Client go to tools Scanable Network Shares you should see your PC listed as a network share. It should show as Online and make sure it is active. Then select Rescan from the options on the right of the screen.

Once this scan has finished your music should show in the  music library, and you should then be available for streaming directly from your Uniti2 front screen.

Good luck

Gerry

Thank you Gerry for your answer,

It works but doesn't solve my problem.

The process you describe make all music files stored in my computer available for playing from NAIMUNITI.

But what I'm looking for is the way to use my PC (from Desktop Client playing mode) for playing music stored in the UNITIServe and amplified by NAIMUNITI thru uPnP entry .

It's more convenient to select the music and control the playing using the Desktop Client, more ergonomic than from NAIMUNITI front pannel. 

Thank's anyway

JR

J-R, this is for when the UnitiServe is connected directly to a pre-amp, integrated amp, etc., via an optical or coax cable.  It is one way to use the UnitiServe -- not as a network server but as a stand-alone player.  You could connect your UnitiServe to your Naim Uniti this way, but you then could not use nStream to control the Uniti; you'd have to control playback via the DTC or nServe.

Again, this is the important bit.  It will be available for playback controlled by the Uniti2, but not by the UnitiServe, when the two are connected over a network.

Thank's CBR600,

Be sure that I've analyzed all the NAIM manuals with great accuracy before sending my first post to this forum. I have also made many experimentations.

Maybe it is Bart who have the definite answer, to be said :

in uPnP mode, the only way to read music files is to "pull" them from the Client device (NAIMUNITI or UNITIQute) ?

I would appreciate NAIM to confirm this ...

Ans in this case, what is the utility of Desktop Client in Player mode ??  

Thank's

JR

JR, the Desktop Client, in addition to controlling maintenance of the server, backups, and editing, can control playback in 'player mode.'  In 'player mode,' the UnitiServe must be connected directly to a piece of audio equipment via an optical or coax digital cable. 

In 'server mode,' the UnitiServe must be connected to a network via an ethernet connection.  But in this mode playback must be controlled by the UPnP client such as a Uniti2, UnitiQute, NDX, NDS, ND5XS, etc.

You can use the UnitiServe in either mode.  I hope that this explains it for you

The other option for you is to use n-Stream on an iPod, iPad or phone.

Thank's Bart,

Your last answer is clear enough to close the topic for me.

To use an image inspired by the word "Server" (that means "waiter" in french), the UnitiServe can serve up to six Clients simultaneously, but they have to come themselves to the kitchen to make their choice, the "Server" doesn't come at their table(s) to bring the menu ....

You are quite right, JR, and that is consistent with how servers work in the computer network world generally.  They only bring what they are asked to bring

Bonjour JR,

Having lived in France for two years, and having owned a bit of Naim equipment, I feel qualified to answer your question, but Bart beat me to it. To amplify on Bart's post, Naim servers are like Parisian serveurs. You don't ask them, they tell you. If you are looking for polite, there is always Rega. 

The UnitiServe outputs its data via S/PDIF and UPnP. The Desktop client controls playback only via S/PDIF into an adjoining DAC. So if no DAC is attached, then you will see the DTC software 'playing', but you won't hear anything.

To control playback via UPnP, you have to use the nStream application, or the front panel controls on the Uniti.

But you already knew that from Bart's posts.

salutations de Montréal

Jan