Network Access

Posted by: Sdan on 14 June 2013

I have installed my UnityServe. The US has a ethernet connection to the router (U.S. Comcast Cable Co.). I connected my LcCie external drive to my iMac-also connected to the same router. 

 

I am able to play, manage and rip CD's via iPad and iPhone. I cannot access the network service as described in the owners manual. I have the correct naim name and have tried all recommendations within the manual. Yet, there is nothing. 

 

Any suggestions?

 

Tim

Posted on: 14 June 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Tim, do the LEDs light on the US Ethernet port? And on the router port? If not try a different patch lead.. Ensure it's not a cross over lead.

If this appears ok, check to see what IP addresi ythe SU has been given.. Does it start with the same numbers as the router and iPad addresses? If not your SU may not  be inter operating correctly with your routers DHCP function.. Try using a manually assigned  IP address for the US. If you are stuck with this post back and I will tell how to determine this.

Simon

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Claus-Thoegersen

Can you play Internet radio? If yes you at least have internet access.

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Claus-Thoegersen

And the folders or the disk has the correct sharing permissions?

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Sdan

Per Simon's recommendation, I am getting the LED's to blink on the UnityServe and router. I can get internet radio. Listening to BBC 4. Checked my laptop and the same program is coming through. Below is the MAC address for the UnityServe and router:

Naim: 00:1F:F2:09:49: DD

ROuter: 00 26 F3 2A E1


I am not savvy with computers, how would I change the IP address on the Naim? How do I enable sharing on my iPad?


Thanks for the assistance.

Tim

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by Sdan:
I cannot access the network service as described in the owners manual.

Tim I own a UnitiServe . . . but I do not know what the sentence quoted above means.  What exactly is not working?  I'll try to help

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

if your have internet radio - then your ip address is ok and your network is most likely ok.

I would at Claus's suggestions now of checking the disk shares.

Simon

 

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Claus-Thoegersen

I had totally forgotten the weeks I spend trying to get a share working so my ns01 could use it on my Mac Mini. That was with osX 10.6. In 10.5 it should be less problematic, but after 10.6 you can expect serious problems! I do not know if 10.8 has improved smb sharing between a Windows machine and a mac. The userve runs  a flavour of Windows xp, so the windows/mac sharing problems exist.

If you ask Naim they will advice you to forget about setting up shares on a Mac and get a nas instead.

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by garyi

Does he mean simply the web interface?

 

two things

 

make sure you have flash installed

simply type in the ip of the server

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Sdan

I now have access Bart. I have OS10.6.8 and downloaded the latest Adobe flash. Any suggestions on the files to open for sharing? I found the sharing folder under system preferences. 

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by garyi

OK in system prefs under sharing goto the advanced or options button and turn on SMB

 

Back in the sharing pref click the plus button and find music to share. This needs to be on your mac, otherwise its going to get well confused.

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Sdan

I did exactly as instructed. Same results: "Search did not match our documents". That was Google. Get similar message on Firefox, Safari you name it. This is really disappointing. The whole purpose going with Naim for computer audio was to get away the mac mini setup. Thanks for your assistance.

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by garyi

Yea, but i am not sure what you are doing, you seem confused.

 

what do you want to achieve?

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by garyi:

Yea, but i am not sure what you are doing, you seem confused.

 

what do you want to achieve?

+1 

 

You mention Google, then Firefox and Safari.  Google is a search engine; Firefox and Safari are web browsers.  This is not to pick on you, but you're not using vocabulary familiar to any of us.  This is making it hard for any of us to figure out how to help.

 

Do you have the SSD (solid state drive) UnitiServe, or one with an internal hard drive?  If internal hard drive, is it 2 tb? 

 

Where do you plan on storing your music files that the UnitiServe will access?

Posted on: 15 June 2013 by Claus-Thoegersen

The way Apple implemented smb changed in  10.6 not Apples fault, but this makes it very hard to make osx and Windows machines to see each other. It may work out but if it does not it is very hard, almost impossible to fix. Google it and you will find a lot of threads with problems that often is not solved. Get a cheap nas and it will work fine, or be prepared to spend days maybe weeks on trying to solve the problem.

 

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by garyi

Sdan, download inet from the app store and scan your network, the serve will show up with its ip address.

 

type that ip address into safari.

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by Sdan

First, thank you to everyone for your assistance. Much appreciated. Second, sorry for the bit of tirade on Saturday. I love my Naim equipment-just confused/frustrated.

 

So, I downloaded the inet app and found the naim sevrer on the iPad. I typed in the ip address. Depending if I enter the full address (with ^ w/o colons) i get : Safari cannot open page b/c server cannot be found. Or I have got that it cannot open b/c it is a local file. 

 

The other good news I have the n-server showing up undered "shared" in mu iMac harddrive. ANy other reccomendations?

 

Tim

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by garyi

You arn't making any sense.

 

The web interface for your serve is Flash based therefore it will not run on an ipad, download Nserve from the app store for your ipad.

 

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by Sdan

I down loaded the nerve app. It will not show me anything from the network. Only what has been ripped or loaded via a thumb drive on the unitiserve. I was following the suggestions of the previous post thank you.

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by garyi

I am going to assume English is not your mother tongue.

 

But I am really sorry I don't really understand what your issue is, you are not making a lot of sense.

 

is the nServe app connected to your serve?

 

How is your serve set up? Currently it seems you spent £3 grand just to play back a thumb drive?

 

iMacs do not do SMB well, thats apples fault not Naims.

 

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by Sdan

From the top...my goal is to access the unitiserve's internet/network connections capabilities. This would allow me to access my music files sitting in an external HD that is connected to my iMac. The Unitiserve and imac are connected to the same router. 

 

The unitiserve instructions specify entering into the browser: nssrv + last four digits found on the MAC address on the back of the unitiserve. When I do this, i get the same message that this cannot be done. 

 

I have the n-serve app downloaded onto my iPhone and iPad. When I select "devises" on the n-seerve app, my choices are the thumb drive or the cd's ripped to the unitserve. 

 

After following you advice about inet scan, the unitiserve shows up as a "discovered device" on the iPad. I tried entering the nssrv49dd into the Safari browser and nothing.

 

Another person on this forum recommended addressing the iMac "sharing" folder. I did as instructed and the iMac shows the nssrv49dd as recognized. 

 

When I spoke with my retailer, he said typing the nssrv49dd address into the browser should have worked. Worked for him on him MacBook and iPhone.

 

Does this make sense? 

 

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by garyi

Ok got you now.

 

inet will have given you the ip address usually 192.168.x.x

 

you are getting confused with MAC addresses.

 

on a browser on you imac type in the ip address inet showed you was assigned to the serve.

 

as for music showing up from the mac, smb on mac is flaky, you need a NAS really. Yes you can see the serve from the mac, but the serve needs to see the mac as an smb share.

 

but for now understand that the serve web interface is FLASH so will only run from the imac, not the ipad.

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by garyi

One other thing, i was refering to inet for osx not ios. But anyway all it needs to be is a local network scanner.

 

also nserve might tell you the ip of the serve, just type that number into the imac safari.

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by Sdan

Got it to work. Thank you!

Posted on: 16 June 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by Sdan:

Got it to work. Thank you!

It's a miracle!  Congratulations :-)