ND 5XS streaming problems

You don't say how you are connecting your ND5XS to your home LAN and what are you are using for your Nstream wifi.

It does sound like dodgy home LAN equipment is getting in the way... A common theme for many on this forum... There is soo much junk out there.

My recommendation; use a network switch to connect your NAS, UpnpServer( if different), ND5XS, your Internet router and a separate wifi access point. Use a wifi access point like an Apple Airport Express and create a new SSID (wireless network name) in bridge mode to connect your iPad (and ND5XS if running wirelessly)

I would be surprised if your system then doesn't work flawlessly.

BTW on any one machine/server it is best to initially only run one upnp server on it so default ports/sockets can be used.

Simon

Simon

Follow hardware is used

Netgear N600 modem router with two wireless SSID set

Wired to: ND5xs, Netgear prosafe switch, pc 1

Netgear prosafe switch wired to: Qnap TS212, USB Printserver (Scanner connectet), HP network printer, Elgato Network Dvbt tuner, Pc2, Iomega NAS

I have to admit that i didnt check the second ssid, i do it later today.

Mike

Twonky on QNAP (or elsewhere) is garbage. Buggy and flakey. Folder view doesn't work right, and it isn't reliable overall.

I use a QNAP 219P-II and ND5 XS. Since I also have a Squeezebox Touch, I run Logitech Media Server on the QNAP with the UPnP plugin. All my files are 16- and 24-bit FLAC, and it all works pretty well. I disabled the Twonky server on my QNAP. 

I don't have access to my QNAP at the moment. I'll have to look later. In the meantime, try using Google. That should give you an answer.

You should give minimserver a try as that works well on my QNAP TS119P-II NAS.

Hi Michael

I have two threads running at the moment, re UPnP servers. Check them out, there is some good advice on there.

Race Tripper is correct, Twonky is rubbish!! Find an alternative.

I am now going to use plan 'B'. I'm keeping my UnitiServe, with it's excellent UPnP server!

Michael, beg, borrow or steal an Apple Airport Express and use as your 'streaming' SSID for your Nstream and connect to your switch

Also connect your ND5XS into your switch... Does it all start working???

Hint is how multicast discovery is handled by some entry level consumer routers and wireless access points

Simon

1. You will need to start Logitech Media Server (LMS), under QPKG Center.
2. Once running, open the LMS server page (mine runs under port 9001 on the same host as the QNAP).
3. Go to Settings, then the Plugins tab, and make sure under plugins that "UPnP/DLNA Media Interface" plugin is checked.
4. Once that is running (you might have to restart LMS), you can go to "SSOTS — Squeezebox Server On TurboStation" page (mine runs on port 9099.
5. You will want to read through it, but you essentially need to go to the Settings page and make sure "Toggle UPnP" is enabled (green).

So if there is a separate access point connected to the switch, presumably it's not a problem using the iPad to do other stuff through it to - like posting this! I turn my wifi off to stop the boys using their computers, so if there was a separate point, that would enable nStream to keep working. I know you can set rules at the router, but it's really complicated!

Should be straight forward.. Leave your other SSID running for your kids etc, but use the new SSID on the AE just for your iPad. Yes you can do everything you would normally do on your iPad on its new SSID ..Simples... You don't need any special rules etc...

Simon

So they would connect to the DrayTek and I'd simply not tell them the password to connect to the AE? I could turn the DrayTek wifi off and the nStream would carry on as needed. Sounds like a plan, assuming I've got it right. Thanks Simon.

Hello Folks,

thx for all the answers i got. However, there is still one issue i need to solve. Why is n-serve and Twonky not working with my nd5xs but Plug Player/ Elyric and twonky does??

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Michael, it's hard to be sure, but it could be those controllers (Plug Player and Nstream) implement upnp discovery slightly differently and so differences in your home LAN capability are showing up differently. In a properly working LAN supporting multicast there should be no difference, hence why I have suggested as far as possible take any query over the LAN out of the equation.

Edit: reading your original post again, and noting your subsequent use of Asset.. It appears the discovery is working, but the server gets some sort of timeout reading the NAS...  Hmmm ... So use Asset, and point it at another share where you can put some media somewhere different from your QNAP NAS. does this work? If so then this does point to your NAS being suspect.

You see Plug Player and Nstream use different methods to play media. Nstream pulls from the ND5XS via the upnp server and PluPlayer pushes from upnp server to the ND5XS..

Just another idea.. You can also check your NAS has a static IP address... Ie one that is fixed and does not change from time to time. 

Simon

HH - The Draytek allows you to setup multiple SSID's (i.e. more than one wireless network).  You can set one up for your self and one for the kids, if you make the second one for your kids, it is easy to disable it using the enable/disable checkbox.  It's in the general setup option in the Wireless Lan Section.  I think it is even possible to setup a schedule if you want to restrict by time, I'd need to check for sure.

It saves having to buy and run another device unless you want Airplay which the Express would give you.

Richard

Nothing worked so far

minimserver

twonky

i rebuiled the qnap

reset ND5xs

nothing

what i did was now running the n-serve app with the compatibility Modus donno why but that works. But this Modi sucks, any sugestions 

I allready had a phone call with naim Support they have no idea

Thanks Richard. I've been shopping today and now have the Airport running. I can turn off the kids at the push of a button (if only) and still control the Naim. I'm sure the Draytek and do these clever things, but it's beyond my powers.

Michael, have you tried my suggestion of running Asset with another NAS even as a temporary test?

BTW the additional SSID thing using an Apple AE is simply because the AE supports multicast required for optimum Upnp (and Apple AirPlay) operation. 

Simon

I have checked running asset with media on a internal harddisk on a win 7 pc. Perfect

Good, so it sounds like your NAS is the culprit.

Simon

Hello Forum,

i solved that problem. But you guys wont belive it.

To set up a Lamp behind my chair i installed last Saturday a extension cable (two wires 0,75m2) very very thin , hidden under a carpet. This cabel layed close to the CAT Network cable in 3 till 5 cm distance.

As soon i unplugged the extension cord everything was running smoth as it was last week.

Conclusion: allways use a shield cable

Hi Michael

I have got a Qnap NAS, which has the Twonky UPnP server built in. The NAS is good, but the Twonky server is crap! It gives the track listings in alphabetical order, rather than the correct listing. I was playing 'The Verve', but Twonky gave the Artwork from 'The Beatles, Abbey Road'. I have now disabled the Twonky server, and only use the server on my UnitiServe SSD. I was originally going to sell my UnitiServe, but because it's server is so good, it ain't going anywhere now!! Wonderful piece of kit! 

Michael or use proper CAT 5e UTP (un shielded cable) as that will reject noise... If your Ethernet lead is that affected by being close to a mains lead something is very wrong... Like horrendous RFI emanating from your mains, or  perhaps moderate noise and exceedingly poor or faulty Ethernet lead . Is the lamp a low power or LED variant? Are you using Ethernet over Powerline any where?  The reason I ask that RFI from the mains (assuming your original ethernet lead isnt faulty) might be reducing the potential of your Naim audio equipment.

Simon