Detroit

Posted by: Marky Mark on 18 July 2013

Detroit has just filed for bankruptcy. I find this somewhat hidden side of the US fascinating.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQFtNLvcl8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQwcLU2X_Sg

 

What's it all about then?

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by winkyincanada

I have no real clue about the technical implications. For sure, lawyers and bankers will engorge themselves on the rotten carcasses of the defaulted contracts, and the creditors will get next-to-nothing.

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by Marky Mark

The social side of things and state of the built environment are unbelievable. A living dystopia. One stat was more likely to go to prison than complete high school. The ambulances don't run. The police have lost control. The street lights don't work.

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by aht

Maybe so, but the Detroit Tigers are one heck of a baseball team, with a shiny (relatively) new stadium and numerous athletes paid multi-million dollar salaries.  Is this a great country or what!

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by Marky Mark

There are cities and towns in the UK which have no economic future and haven't done for years but what strikes me is the sheer chasm of difference in how hard and how far you can fall when you fall in the US. Yes, we have depressed cities which are a bit rough around the edges but nothing like on this scale of broad decline - economic, social and environmental. Not even close. Not saying it is easy for all in the UK - far from it. Just that it is definitely not as hard as it can be in the US.

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by matt podniesinski

Seeing the result of winner take all politics and economics.

Posted on: 18 July 2013 by DrMark

Detroit is a monument to politician's central planning - they tried to make it Sweden and got Somalia instead.

Posted on: 19 July 2013 by Marky Mark

The UK model is more like central planning than the US. In many of our struggling cities 1/3 of the jobs are provided by the state. However, if this and other state support were withdrawn these cities would almost certainly not undergo any economic miracle but instead become like Detroit also.

Posted on: 19 July 2013 by DrMark

Which is what the state sought in the first place...politicians love serfs.