Synology question

Posted by: hungryhalibut on 10 August 2013

I've just bought a Synology NAS. I've set up a shared folder, and the UServe web interface can see it.

 

I've set up a network share in the web interface, but cannot set up a backup music store as the Synology is showing as 'offline', though it is enabled. 

 

My question (and I am completely stumped) is how do I get the Synology to show as 'online' so that I can set it up as a backup? I must be missing something!!

 

Thanks.

 

 

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
 It turns out that the NAS adds three folders called HQ, MQ, and LQ to each shared folder you set up. What they are and why they are there I don't know.

 

Those are sub-folders that the uServe creates in the backup store.  WHY they were there in a new folder . . . I can only imagine that the backup process started, then hiccoughed, but only after those were created (??)  Those are classic uServe backup sub-folder names.  (Although I have noticed lately that mine is creating only the MQ; I thought that after the upgrade to 1.7a that perhaps it was no longer creating the HQ and LQ folders.)

 

I did not stop to ask if you had the Synology's music server also running.  That definitely could confuuze it.

 

NOW, after the full backup has completed . . . try to do a "differential" backup to that same newmusicbackup destination.  See if it remains "online."  That's my glitch -- it goes offline never to return   (Although in the past 24 hrs rebooting has brought back at least one of my backup stores.)

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by hungryhalibut

It's set up to do a differential scan. Of course, the first one is a differential to nothing, so a full scan. The three folders were set up by the Synology before I did anything so maybe it's a windows thing. I did notice that when the first song backed up, it had an MQ on the front. I now know a lot more about how the DTC works, and as you say, you don't need to look at the web interface.

 

Fingers crossed that the differential scans keep going....

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by scillyisles

No need to stop the Synology Media Server on the Synology - mine runs all the time and the NAIM DTC backup function allows me to use the synology nas folders that do not contain music. The Synology Media Server is very good if you want to stream to devices like Ipads, Iphones etc either locally or remote.

As Bart says the sub folders HQ,MQ and LQ are created by the Naim Unitiserve.  The Synology has not created them.

 

 

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by hungryhalibut

I don't doubt you, but I wonder how they can be in a new share on the NAS, before I have set it as a backup. Whatever, it works!

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

Whatever, it works!

I say this a lot.

Posted on: 13 August 2013 by scillyisles
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

 

I can now promote the NAS to a music store, but not a backup. The web interface says the NAS is offline, even when it's not.

This is where you created the HQ,LQ and MQ subvolumes. As soon as you click the "Use as Music Store" grey button on the Naim Desktop software, it will create these subvolumes in preparation for music to be stored in them. Once they are there then the Naim Desktop software will recognise their presence and will not allow the shared folder containing these subvolumes to be used as a backup.

 

Posted on: 13 August 2013 by Bart

Well my daily backup worked fine last nite.

 

Dear readers, take Allen's advice from earlier in this thread! 

Posted on: 13 August 2013 by hungryhalibut
Originally Posted by scillyisles:
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

 

I can now promote the NAS to a music store, but not a backup. The web interface says the NAS is offline, even when it's not.

This is where you created the HQ,LQ and MQ subvolumes. As soon as you click the "Use as Music Store" grey button on the Naim Desktop software, it will create these subvolumes in preparation for music to be stored in them. Once they are there then the Naim Desktop software will recognise their presence and will not allow the shared folder containing these subvolumes to be used as a backup.

 

Got it. It's good to understand the logic behind these things. After the first big backup, the scheduled differential backup was OK. I've loaded more CDs today, so I'll check again tomorrow.