To all those having issues with Internet Radio

Posted by: J Saville on 13 August 2013

As part of the 1.7a update to all Naim Server products, the feature for streaming internet radio over UPnP has been added. This means that the Serve does the buffering for Internet Radio, much more stable.

 

This feature must be activated through DTC, Select the Tools tab, Settings & Functions, System Settings. Select the 'Naim UPnP Server' tab, find internet radio, and set it to True.

 

Another reason to buy a serve.

 

Enjoy!

 

J Saville

 

 

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by ChrisH

Intriguing. How did you come by this information JS?

Generally Internet Radio is fine for me, but every now and then it has a wobble and struggles with the higher bit stream stations, presumably because of slower broadband speeds or network traffic.

Anyway, Ive changed the setting in DTC as you describe.

Im curious to see what effect it has, if any. (must remember that Ive changed it though in case I need to change it back )

 

(Uniti1 / Unitiserve / Neat Motive 2's)

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by J Saville

I have my sources...

 

I have done some testing and was able to comfortably stream 2 different 320k streams on 2 different streamers (NDX, Qute 2) with no buffer dropouts on an incoming connection speed at less that 10mb/s! This is a huge improvement as I would struggle to play even 192k streams in some cases using streamer internet radio. Well done Naim, a big step in the right direction.

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by ChrisH
Since making the change in DTC I am now seeing Internet radio in n-stream in the upnp input and via the remote handset upnp button, as well as the iRadio input of course. Makes sense. I'll try iRadio via upnp from now on and see what results I get.
Posted on: 14 August 2013 by Stephen Pritchard
Please excuse my ignorance with question ... What is DTC?
Posted on: 14 August 2013 by ChrisH
DTC = Naim Desktop Client
It's the PC Client that allows the user to make the most changes to set up, if I'm not mistaken.
There is also the Flash version web type interface through Internet explorer, but DTC gives more functionality.
And it is for Naim hard disk players and servers.
Posted on: 14 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by ChrisH:
DTC = Naim Desktop Client
It's the PC Client that allows the user to make the most changes to set up, if I'm not mistaken.
There is also the Flash version web type interface through Internet explorer, but DTC gives more functionality.
And it is for Naim hard disk players and servers.

And don't forget n-Serve for OS X, which is essentially the DTC for Macs.  It's available on the iTunes (App) store.

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by Stephen Pritchard
Thanks chaps ... Thought I had missed something with the NDS and 'Qute root.
Posted on: 15 August 2013 by The Meerkat
 

As part of the 1.7a update to all Naim Server products, the feature for streaming internet radio over UPnP has been added. This means that the Serve does the buffering for Internet Radio, much more stable.

 

This feature must be activated through DTC, Select the Tools tab, Settings & Functions, System Settings. Select the 'Naim UPnP Server' tab, find internet radio, and set it to True.

 

Another reason to buy a serve.

 

Enjoy!

 

J Saville

 

 

Can this be achieved using n-Serve on a Mac? I have just gone into UPnP settings - Internet Radio - Allowable device views, then changed it from false to true. Or, is that nothing to do with it?

Posted on: 15 August 2013 by J Saville

That should do the trick (I don't have a MAC to try it)

 

If set then you should see it appear under UPnP on your streamer in this order:

 

All Music

CD Collection

Devices

Internet Radio

 

You can ignore the Internet Radio input from now on.

Posted on: 12 January 2014 by R.K

Just found this thread. Why should radio be more stable through server (NS01) rather than streamer (NDS)?  Have tried this but very slow finding stations with former.  Advantage is being able to browse music whilst listening. 

Posted on: 12 January 2014 by J Saville
The Ethernet buffer size on the streamers is small, so in a lot of cases trying to stream stations higher than 192kbps Results in stop-start playback. The Serve has a much larger buffer and prevents this from occurring.
Posted on: 12 January 2014 by NickSeattle
Originally Posted by J Saville:
The Ethernet buffer size on the streamers is small, so in a lot of cases trying to stream stations higher than 192kbps Results in stop-start playback. The Serve has a much larger buffer and prevents this from occurring.

 

I don't know the buffer size on the Squeezebox Touch, but today I rebooted the Mac Mini running the LMS server app for my SBT, and Radio Paradise 320 didn't miss a beat!  And the Mini takes 2-5 minutes to come fully up with its modest conventional hard drive.  (Refreshing my iPeng session did cause a one second drop out, though.)

 

Surprising, to me.

 

Nick