Gapless issues on 3.21 thread vanished?

Was this update rushed out? No

Was it delayed  due to last minute bugs? Yes.

A bit poor? Yes.

Can we lose seek to time to have gapless playback? Who knows.

Glad Allen B is not around for this. Don't make him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry!!!!

School, boy error....o yes.

No, I'm not happy about this. Should not of happened. Should of been picked up prior to release. 

A fix should of been available by now.

Rant over...for now!

Sounds like you got the standard level 1 support initial response as practiced by thousands of help desks worldwide. A quick scan of this thread provides most of the answers.

Hopefully there's some detailed analysis going on in Salisbury and a fix will emerge... Conforming to uPnP is a right PITA, and I am beginning to see the merits of a closed loop system.

Hi, I trust diagnostics are well advanced by now. Richard copied the original thread onto support when we all started experiencing this with new firmware a couple of weeks back.

Simon

Hmm - looks like the upgrade doesn't provide anything very useful. Think I'll wait 

Yup unless you're into listening to mp3s in different rooms or want to whizz through your music which doesn't include any classical/live or prog concept albums.

Gents, to be fair the gapless playback issue is intermittent, so when it strikes it is annoying, but it's not the case that all gapless playback has stopped working.

Simon

Hi Simon,

I hear what you say and it is true that the issue is intermittent but it is an issue which degrades SQ which I wouldn't have expected from naim especially given the extensive prerelease testing which they must have undertaken.

Sjbabbey, I agree.

Hi Simon,

I can pretty much guarantee "breaks" on all gapless music.

I'm thinking of changing my forum name.....Jonna the Mona!!!

Luckily I don't listen to much gapless material, so this is an irritation rather than an issue. Overall the seek to time is a useful feature, but it is a shame that the gapless bug was not spotted given such an extended testing cycle.

Anyway, winge over as the Gods of IT may seek their revenge on one of my projects if I don't shut up and enjoy the music...

Jona the Mona what upnp server you using?

Dave you are far too nice!!!

Now, listen to some gapless music and join the club go on you will feel much better!

Asset 4.1, don't start me off

I guess I'll have to buy a U'serve then!!!

I may be wrong but I'm sure that this issue is related to the method naim have used to implement the new S2T functionality. It seems to be directly linked to the way in which the streamers buffer the music data.

For example, I've tried scrolling forward on a hi-res gapless track and the buffer fell to zero after which it took a couple of seconds for the track to resume from its new position. Oddly enough, the buffer then did not empty when it reached the end of that track and of course it played straight through to the following track.

Come to think of it, who is going to post a thread " The best Gapless Album"!!!!!

Unfortunately, I'm now encountering another problem playing gapless files. Just listening to Tangerine Dreams live album "Brighton 1986" and had 2 drop-outs but now it has started to skip tracks with the message "Skipped Track - Can't Play" appearing in n-stream. It did this on 2 consecutive tracks. There is no problem with the tracks themselves as I can stop play and get them to play from the play queue.

Am transcoding Flac files to wav (24bit 44.1KHz) using JRiver 18.0.212 from my PC which is connected via ethernet/network (as are my NAS drives) to my ND5XS. I'm running firmware 3.21.000 BC SW 3D12915.50 with n-stream app version 3.3.6983.

This is not good.

Is this problem happening with U'serve? Or just Asset?

Gents,

I have gone into "Network Settings" on NDS and set DHCP to no, and I'm not sure but I think I have gapless playback eh...back. The buffer still drops but the gap seems gapless. I need to further test, but I have run out of time.

Can you experiment' as I have to pop to the pub (like you do ). 

Just updated following a return from holiday. Doesn't even a cold system sound marvellous after 2 weeks with an iPod!

Early days but playing Mike Oldfield, Music of the Spheres there is a very small glitch between some tracks.  Using Asset as well on a fast, fully wired network.

My buffer drops to 0% at 5 seconds before the end of the track, within a second (i.e. 4 seconds before the end of the track) it is back up to 100%

Richard

If you turn off DHCP, then you have to assign a fixed IP address to your network player (because your router will no longer be doing so).

TBH, I can't think of any reason why this would cause a change to gapless behavior, but traveling right now, and can not test... 

Unfortunately disabling DHCP did not solve the gapless issue - at least in my case (NDS, Asset, wired network).

ATB

    Karlheinz

Yes, I am with Hook, if switching DHCP negotiation off affects this buffer problem, the bug in the Naim code is more serious than i thought... But I would be very surprised if that was the case.

FWIW having statically assigned IP address for clients on the edge of LAN is usually  considered bad practice, so I say best avoid unless you really have no other choice e.g. You don't have a DHCP service. Papering over cracks is simply inviting tomorrows headaches.  Servers and infrastructure are a different story and best statically assigned.

Simon