Which New Bike?

Posted by: rodwsmith on 28 August 2013

Seem to be lots of cycling aficionados round these parts...

I'd quite like to buy a new bike, but I lack the expertise to find the choices in the shop anything other than super-daunting. 

Currently ride a €350 thing from Decathlon, which has served me well, but is six years old, has difficulty changing gear sometimes (specifically to the third gear on the front derailer, even though it has been looked at twice). Anyway I do enough cycling to warrant an investment, so how much need I allocate to get a dividend and what should I look for?

 

 


Looking at €1.5 - €2.5k, although I could save up a little more if necessary. Seems here that €1500 is enough to buy an all-carbon bike, but is the least expensive of those a real economy or even a good idea?

Needs to be available in France (even if shipping weren't an issue, I'd want to try it first). My nearest quality cycling shop (unless you know otherwise) is this one: www.culturevelo.com.

 

My own research so far, via reviews and so on is a Scott CR1 Team, which seems to be very highly regarded and a good all-rounder

Any advice or specific recommendations gratefully appreciated..!

Cheers

Rod

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by ameden
 
Hi
 
have been looking at the Defy Composite...son1 and son2 are now showing interest in road cycling...so after some research and window shopping the Defy Comp is looking strong VFM for their first road bikes...even the '3' model......I guess you prob got the '1' or the '2' model, taking advantage of the runout 2013 models...
 
Good to see your comments, we will go see the Giant dealer next week and see what he has...
 
 
enjoy the bike
 
 
Originally Posted by SKDriver:

Rod,

 

Late to the party on this topic - now is the time to buy a 2013 bike as the new 2014 colours are coming out.

 

i just bought a 2013 Giant Defy Composite at over £200 less than list, with a groupset upgrade.  My other road bike is an aluminium frame with Carbon forks / seat post (2007 Trek SL1000).  The Defy is a huge step up; the rigidity of the frame is awesome, you really feel the bike is working for not against you and hence its speed is something else. Conversely, the Defy is also so much more forgiving in the comfort stakes.  I get off it feeling I can do another ride. Thank the 'relaxed geometry' for that. I'm not a Giant salesman, I'm sure similar Cannondale, Trek, Specialized etc models are also impressive.

 

The only downside to carbon I can see is the greater TLC needed for the frame.  If that worries you too much, get a cheaper Aluminium frame (Defy, Spec Allez et al) and a better set of hoops...

 

Remember though...it's all about the bike....

 

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by ameden
Hi
 
Total GranFondo Distance: 122 km
Total GranFondo Elevation: 1700 metres

 
Nice ride, looks to have some good climbs.....well done !!
 
 
(does the 'CX Zero disc' look too ugly....http://www.colnago.com/cx-zero-disc/   )
 
 
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

Just got back from the Whistler Fondo. Quite chuffed with 17th from 900 in my age group (50-59 men) and 154th overall from about 4000 starters. Then rode back home for a 230km day.

 

My ugly modern Colnago was flawless.

 

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by Huwge
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by rodwsmith:

Well I bought one!

 

 

 

Cheers, thanks again for all the advice. I read it all. 

Nice one. Excellent choice. Focus is a well-regarded brand. (When you go to the Dolomites for a cycling vacation you will be VERY glad of the triple.)

What Winky said, having just come back from Südtirol with a 9km 10% gradient the only way back to our hotel - triple chain rings pretty useful and not just for fat  boys like me. A lot of the old Italian geezers flying past me were on triple rings.

 

@Winky - you need a Colnago Master to balance out the ugliness of your carbon monster ;-) 

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Huwge:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by rodwsmith:

Well I bought one!

 

 

 

Cheers, thanks again for all the advice. I read it all. 

Nice one. Excellent choice. Focus is a well-regarded brand. (When you go to the Dolomites for a cycling vacation you will be VERY glad of the triple.)

What Winky said, having just come back from Südtirol with a 9km 10% gradient the only way back to our hotel - triple chain rings pretty useful and not just for fat  boys like me. A lot of the old Italian geezers flying past me were on triple rings.

 

@Winky - you need a Colnago Master to balance out the ugliness of your carbon monster ;-) 

Oh, yes. You are right. They are sweet looking ride. But if I wanted a steel bike, I'd be more likely to go with a small North American custom builder, though. Portland, the spiritual home of new-world custom steel is just down the road. There is a good guy (Sam Whittingham - Naked Bikes) just a ferry ride away, too.

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by Reginald Halliday

One of my neighbours has just put in an order for

 

 

Somewhat beyond the OP's budget but any excuse to post pics of beautiful bikes.

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Reginald Halliday:

One of my neighbours has just put in an order for

 

 

Somewhat beyond the OP's budget but any excuse to post pics of beautiful bikes.

They've made a very good job of creating a bike that looks like an Autocad generated 3D image prior to rendering.

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by rupert

Where's the rear brake

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by Reginald Halliday

fatcat: Its real. see http://tinyurl.com/oxf7vzp

 

rupert: The rear brake is under the bottom bracket. If you look closely you can see one pad at about 8 o'clock behind the chainring.

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by SKDriver
Originally Posted by ameden:
 
Hi
 
have been looking at the Defy Composite...son1 and son2 are now showing interest in road cycling...so after some research and window shopping the Defy Comp is looking strong VFM for their first road bikes...even the '3' model......I guess you prob got the '1' or the '2' model, taking advantage of the runout 2013 models...
 
Good to see your comments, we will go see the Giant dealer next week and see what he has...
 
 
enjoy the bike
 
 
Originally Posted by SKDriver:

Rod,

 

Late to the party on this topic - now is the time to buy a 2013 bike as the new 2014 colours are coming out.

 

i just bought a 2013 Giant Defy Composite at over £200 less than list, with a groupset upgrade.  My other road bike is an aluminium frame with Carbon forks / seat post (2007 Trek SL1000).  The Defy is a huge step up; the rigidity of the frame is awesome, you really feel the bike is working for not against you and hence its speed is something else. Conversely, the Defy is also so much more forgiving in the comfort stakes.  I get off it feeling I can do another ride. Thank the 'relaxed geometry' for that. I'm not a Giant salesman, I'm sure similar Cannondale, Trek, Specialized etc models are also impressive.

 

The only downside to carbon I can see is the greater TLC needed for the frame.  If that worries you too much, get a cheaper Aluminium frame (Defy, Spec Allez et al) and a better set of hoops...

 

Remember though...it's all about the bike....

 

Giant are ubiquitous but for a good reason; their frames and build quality are first class and they offer great VFM.

 

Mine is a Composite 2 which has had the SRAM groupset replaced with 105 and Ultegra. Also replaced the stock wheels with some spare Shimano RS10s I had on my Trek SL (minor upgrade on the OK Giant PR2 rims).

 

Great bike for normal money. Looks ace in black / white / bronze also!

Posted on: 08 September 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Reginald Halliday:

One of my neighbours has just put in an order for

 

 

Somewhat beyond the OP's budget but any excuse to post pics of beautiful bikes.

Something similar, in action during the Giro 2009 Rome time trial. I like the colour scheme on this one even though it is predominantly black.

Posted on: 14 September 2013 by Jonathan Gorse

Obviously loads and loads of options but here's two:

 

http://www.evanscycles.com/pro..._kword__match__plid_

 

http://www.cotic.co.uk/product/roadrat - bit cheap perhaps for your budget but I love my Soul and you could always up the component spec.  If you plan to use the bike for commuting then think carefully about anything too valuable.

 

Jonathan

Posted on: 14 September 2013 by northpole

Rod

 

Congratulations on your new bike.  I don't have a triple, but for very weight penalty you now have an ace up your sleeve should you come across a challenging hill - particularly towards the end of a ride!

 

At this time of year, with temperatures starting to dip, my daily commute has my mind turning back towards mudguards.  As an earlier poster mentioned, mudguards not only restrict the volume of gritty water being thrown up off the road onto your feet and back, they also greatly reduce the amount of grit gathering on the chain/ grinding the chainrings and cassette cogs.  If your new bike has restricted clearance you could consider a set of these - they look a bit heath robinson but they really do work and weigh next to nothing.

 

http://www.crudproducts.com/products/roadracer

 

The other thing I recommend for commuting particularly is a decent set of lights - not sure what the traffic is like where you are, but here in London, the brighter your light I reckon the greater the chance of other road users noticing and avoiding collision with you!


Peter

Posted on: 14 September 2013 by northpole

Oops - should have said for very little weight penalty!!

 

Peter

Posted on: 22 September 2013 by Marky Mark
Originally Posted by northpole:

the brighter your light I reckon the greater the chance of other road users noticing and avoiding collision with you!

...agreed as long as you are not blinding them with the light.

Posted on: 23 September 2013 by rodwsmith

Thanks Peter, Mark.

 

I have lights, two small LED things that punch above their weight but will suffice. It is already still dark here at 6am( when I leave if I am working early), but the roads are well lit. The rear light is a neat little device that fits into the Fizik saddle, and weighs next-to-nothing, thanks to Ameden for that tip!

 

The mudguard thing is interesting. In fact we get about the same rainfall here as London, but it all tends to fall in massive stormy downpours that are a) relatively predictable and b) usually worth waiting out. Having ridden in one, you get saturated in every way anyway, but the protection for the chainring etc is of interest.

 

Still enjoying the bike!