Music downloads?

Posted by: Popeye on 29 August 2013

Hi all

 

I am fairly new to the Naim scene and have myself a unitiqute 2. I wanted to know where I should be downloading my music, as it seams ITunes not the best for quality.

I have looked at Naim music and Linn's but in all honestly a lot of it isn't the sort of stuff I listen to.

Is there anywhere you can recommend to download that has a lot of the Mainstream artists most are familiar with or do I have to put up with ITunes quality?

 

Thanks all 

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by Richard Dane

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

I didn't think Qobus was available in the UK at the moment? Perhaps later this year.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by Richard Dane

I admit I haven't yet tried ordering from them but they seem to have a pretty good selection.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by osprey

You can also try to check the other sites mentioned in these threads: 

Where Do You Download Your Hi-Res Music From?

HI Def Downloads - From Where ?

Some artists make Hi Res downloads available also directly on their web sites so it is worth looking those if you are after a specific release.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by dave4jazz

Popeye

To answer your question I don't think you are going to find many music downloads available from the major labels higher than 256Kb (AAC) or 320Kb (MP3) bit rate, e.g. iTunes or Spotify. What I am doing, and I guess a lot of others, is ripping my CDs to lossless files, e.g. FLAC or ALAC, and then steaming from my PC to my music system. Maybe when Qobus becomes available in the UK this will change.

Dave

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by Richard Dane

Yes, buying a CD or DVD-A - sometimes for pennies - and then ripping it ( for CDs use a Unitiserve, HDX, or alternatively use EAC or DBpoweramp on your computer) seems the best way right now for best quality and lowest cost.  Just make sure you keep the CD somewhere safe though.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

I didn't think Qobus was available in the UK at the moment? Perhaps later this year.

It is - If you mail them via the help form they will activate your account.

G

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

I didn't think Qobus was available in the UK at the moment? Perhaps later this year.

It is - If you mail them via the help form they will activate your account.

G

From what I've seen it probably helps if you speak, or understand, French as well.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by osprey
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

I didn't think Qobus was available in the UK at the moment? Perhaps later this year.

It is - If you mail them via the help form they will activate your account.

G

From what I've seen it probably helps if you speak, or understand, French as well.

 

Surely it helps but there is also a google translate button (select language) in top right corner of the page which might make things a bit easier for those who have limited knowledge in French.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by osprey:
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try Qobuz .  Lots of mainstream stuff in hi-res for the cost of a CD.

I didn't think Qobus was available in the UK at the moment? Perhaps later this year.

It is - If you mail them via the help form they will activate your account.

G

From what I've seen it probably helps if you speak, or understand, French as well.

 

Surely it helps but there is also a google translate button (select language) in top right corner of the page which might make things a bit easier for those who have limited knowledge in French.

If you are really desperate to download high resolution files then maybe the effort and cost will be worth it for some people. Personally CD resolution is perfectly adequate for my listening needs. I'll carry-on buying and burning CDs and wait until they launch a UK site.

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by Popeye

Ok thanks guys. I personally can tell a diffrence in quality to the hd stuff I have downloaded but its not a million miles away. A casual listener wouldn't pick it up I don't think. 

Posted on: 29 August 2013 by Bananahead

Strange. Qobuz has some albums in hi-def cheaper than the CD quality.

Posted on: 30 August 2013 by Harry

They had a sale on last week, I don't know if it's still in progress. They were (are?) doing a Beethoven's symphonies 1-8 set in 24/96 for 9.99 Euro. Most HiRes stuff reduced.

Posted on: 31 August 2013 by m0omo0

This Qobuz sale on hi-res "Studio Masters" ends today.

Posted on: 31 August 2013 by BigH47

Is there a HD version of Famous Blue Raincoat (legally) available anywhere?

 

N.B. 3 x 45 rpm LP version not included.

Posted on: 31 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by BigH47:

Is there a HD version of Famous Blue Raincoat (legally) available anywhere?

 

N.B. 3 x 45 rpm LP version not included.

I found reference to a 24/88 version in an online review of a headphone amp, but cannot find it anywhere.  HDTracks doesn't have it.

Posted on: 31 August 2013 by Iver van de Zand

Hi Popeye,

 

for me an important source is the public library. Here in Belgium, one can loan CD's from te public library. It is entitled to rip 1 copy for personal use only. 

 

Iver

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Arjan
Originally Posted by m0omo0:

This Qobuz sale on hi-res "Studio Masters" ends today.

They have extended the sale till 7 September now. Really a great source for both CD quality and Hi-res albums. Like others mentioned first time i tried to buy from them it said the album wasn't available in my country (Netherlands). But after a friendly email to them in English to ask about availability in my country they updated my account and everything is available now to download. I don't speak French but after browsing the website it's all quite straight forward. Can really recommend it to have a look around.

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Felix H
Originally Posted by Iver van de Zand:

Hi Popeye,

 

for me an important source is the public library. Here in Belgium, one can loan CD's from te public library. It is entitled to rip 1 copy for personal use only. 

 

Iver

I'm afraid you're a pirate Iver. 

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Iver van de Zand
Hey Felix,
 
I do not agree with you. I have checked several times with the Library. The told me I am entitled to make 1 copy of a loaned CD for privat use. This is the copy I  use at home. It is forbidden that would share that copy with others.
 
Cheers,
Iver
 
Originally Posted by Felix H:
Originally Posted by Iver van de Zand:

Hi Popeye,

 

for me an important source is the public library. Here in Belgium, one can loan CD's from te public library. It is entitled to rip 1 copy for personal use only. 

 

Iver

I'm afraid you're a pirate Iver. 

 

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Harry

And the author/artist(s)/whatever would in England get a royalty (if warranted) for every CD you borrow and make one copy of.  Or a lending feel for books. The library system is very diligent about such things over here and I expect the same applies in your locality Iver. It is good that such transactions are audited and accountable. Librarianship is a very serious business. Authors/artists/whatever get a steady and in some cases comfortable income stream from fees paid from the library services.

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Felix H
Originally Posted by Iver van de Zand:
Hey Felix,
 
I do not agree with you. I have checked several times with the Library. The told me I am entitled to make 1 copy of a loaned CD for privat use. This is the copy I  use at home. It is forbidden that would share that copy with others.
 
Cheers,
Iver 

 

Your librarians might be right in the sense that there might be a loophole in the law. In our countries there is a fee collected on each CDR sold. These fees are channeled to the artists and are supposed to cover copying for own use, even if you just borrowed the original CD from a library or from a friend. But of course there is no such fee collected for hard-drives. I suppose law makers are having a hard time keeping up with technology.

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Harry

Borrowing from a library and borrowing from a friend are two different scenarios. The friend is not likely to inform the publisher or offer a fee for a copy. The library service is funded by the taxpayer/ratepayer. You pay in advance for right to borrow or make one personal copy of a music file which you do not share, even though the vast majority of us do not avail themselves of this facility.

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by Felix H
Originally Posted by Harry:

And the author/artist(s)/whatever would in England get a royalty (if warranted) for every CD you borrow and make one copy of.  

 

Really? In Finland the library is not accounting and paying a royalty for every CD borrowing transaction. Instead, copying for own use of CD's is covered with the mechanism that I described above, with CDR fees. This is supposed to cover also copying from a friend's CD. 

Posted on: 03 September 2013 by osprey
Originally Posted by Felix H:
... But of course there is no such fee collected for hard-drives. I suppose law makers are having a hard time keeping up with technology.

 

Felix, actually there is such a fee for every type of storage media. Below is an example of prices concerning hard disks.

 

 

Prices from January 1, 2013

VAT (10 %) will be added to the remuneration prices 


External Hard Disks (inc. Flash/SSD)
Memory minimum 50 gigabytes, max 250 gigabytes
9 euros
Memory over 250 gigabytes, under 1 terabyte
12 euros
Memory minimum 1 terabyte, max 3 terabytes
18 euros

 

source (and full price list): http://www.hyvitysmaksu.fi/fin/prices.html