A hint of cinnamon

I do.

Thanks Nigel

Thanks HH for posting.  Just as a matter of interest how well made are the connectors on the ends of the lead? Considering streaming on my network, as opposed to USB sticks, but  looking for something robust that isn't going to fail at the first little strain.

Andy

They are very good, very solid, and miles better than the plastic ends of standard leads. They go into the sockets with a reassuring click. They certainly feel like quality items.

Thanks HH,

Don't get drawn into the why how, in just enjoy the music. 

Keith

Thank you for posting. And welcome to the bonkers cohort. As Keith says above, the best way forward is to enjoy the music and ignore the static.

I see Audioquest have a similar Cinnamon cable construct for USB. It would be interesting to hear if the guys and gals using async audio through USB hear the same sort of differences.

Id be suprised if they didn't. It's great others are appreciating the benefits of RFI mitigation, through what ever means, be it isolators, chokes, special cables.. What ever the individual is comfortable with. I remember in the early days I felt a bit of a lone voice on this forum. It really does make a difference and gets you closer to the music which is what it is all about.

Simon

SImon,

I did trial AQ Cinamon and Carbon USB cables for connecting my Mac Mini to the V1 earlier this year (along with cables from Chord, and QED).  

Both AQ cables sounded great sat right of the box and are well made, connected well, and good to look at.

The differences in SQ was more detail and resolution as the price went up but had the same sound 'signature'.

In the end, I went for a Wireworld cable that this the equivalent price to the carbon as I preferred its SQ 'signature'.  It was a very hard decision choosing between these two cables in the end

The interesting thing about the Wireworld (Starlight 7) cable was that its sound changed a lot during the c100 hours of break-in time, whereas the AQ cables changed less over a similar period.  

So, AQ in my view are a safe bet..

Jude

PS I have resisted talking about the construct of the cable as Hungryhalibut wishes not to discuss WHY and HOW, understandably....

Jude, good stuff. BTW the connector is equally important if not more so than the cable. I wont go into they why and where fors at the request of the OP, but in short a 100BaseT has a max fundamental frequency of around 31.25MHz. At that frequency impedance matching across connections to reduce reflections and standing waves is important. Digitally this is of little consequence unless extreme, but this does affect the analogue interfacing line driver electronics and peak RF voltage in the cables.

Simon

Good stuff Nigel. Always well worth trying these things for yourself. I've sent the Meicord patch cables back. They didn't really justify the outlay and as i explained in the other thread my system layout precludes replacing the long cable between switch and streamer which i think would have been more effective. My Ethernet isolator helps here though. Just for completeness i tried replacing the PSU on my Netgear switch with 3 different types and didn't detect a difference between them so i'm happy to leave well alone with this aspect of the system. 

James

I tried an Ethernet isolator and for me it had a negative effect. So many variables. Same as always.

Yep. Very true Harry. 

Hear a difference? - glad for you, and  Audioquest but wonder what Naim engineers have to say about this?

They would say, "We are glad our customers are enjoying their hi fi's.  And our forum. Go have a nice day."

Or, hmm, "people are paying £65 for an Audioquest Cinnamon lead, are they? Maybe we should make our own version, put it in a silver tin, and sell it for £295."

. Well - I have seen cables in tins and tins in cables, and a lot to do with noise!

LOL - silly me!

I like the Naim tins. I always take the leads out before using them though.

Harry people have yelled at me to "Get the lead out" many times.

Perhaps it loses something in translation to the Queen's English.

For the record, I've had a Cinnamon lead from my RJ-45 wall jack to my NDS since I purchased the NDS.  I did not do any comparative listening, but it was a lot prettier than the lead left behind by the folks who put the wires in the walls for me.  I don't recall paying close to 45 for it though; maybe selective memory.

Oh actually I have the Forest -- no wonder I didn't remember spending that much.

Yes Jonas you did, and I'm grateful to you, and sorry for doubting you initially. 

I'd be worried if I had green cinnamon.....