Qute 2 control app for Blackberry Z10?

Posted by: Voltaire on 25 November 2013

Hi, an old question but I'm wondering if anyone has discovered anything new?

 

I love my Qute2 but I really need an app that will allow me to control playback from my Blackberry Z10?

 

Any help always appreciated.

 

Gordon

Posted on: 25 November 2013 by garyi

Try most any UPNP control point software.

 

Not sure there are any apps for blackberry though full stop

Posted on: 25 November 2013 by beeka
Originally Posted by Voltaire:

Hi, an old question but I'm wondering if anyone has discovered anything new?

 

I love my Qute2 but I really need an app that will allow me to control playback from my Blackberry Z10?

 

Any help always appreciated.

 

Gordon

I was reading something today that suggests BB10 can run android apps... if so you have a few options.

 

Steve.

Posted on: 25 November 2013 by Bart

Does anyone have any experience with any of the UPnP controllers for Windows Phone? 

Posted on: 25 November 2013 by timster

Buy an itouch or ipad + nstream. You can leave it home and keep the z10 powered for phone duties.

At least that's what I do. I have tried a upnp control point and it was , well, lacking compared to nstream.

timster

Posted on: 25 November 2013 by Voltaire

Thanks all. I was intending to invest in an iPad so...

Posted on: 26 November 2013 by beeka

I think it is damning criticism of Naim's approach to non-iOS app support that buying an ipod for £200+ or ipad for £250+, in addition to your existing £185 phone (price according to google), is considered a sensible option. There might be less bad feeling if nstream didn't exist at all.

 

Steve.

Posted on: 26 November 2013 by timster
Originally Posted by beeka:

I think it is damning criticism of Naim's approach to non-iOS app support that buying an ipod for £200+ or ipad for £250+, in addition to your existing £185 phone (price according to google), is considered a sensible option. There might be less bad feeling if nstream didn't exist at all.

 

Steve.

Personally, I feel that Naim should be given some latitude as they build up their software team and their experience. They are after all an audio business first. i am sure when the business conditions are right an android version will appear .... But until such time an iPhone or iPad is the way to go. I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it. 

Timster

Posted on: 26 November 2013 by Mike1380
I have a Z10, and can use 2 methods to play music on a Qute that a friend owns,  when my Z10 is on his network.

1) play music straight from the phone. Press and hold the screen on a track, select "play to" and off you go. This will let you run playlists stored on the handset, but no volume control.

2) free app called "UPnPlayer". Lets you use the Z10 as a Control  point, select songs from a a server (the app even lets the Z10 see itself as a server) and fire those tracks along with volume control, at a player. It's less friendly for continuous music as it only seems to play one track at a time.


The next OS, 10.2.1, will allow you to directly download and install android .apk files, so if Naim ever release the app in that format, you'd be sorted.

Still prefer my LP12 though.....
Posted on: 26 November 2013 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by beeka:

I think it is damning criticism of Naim's approach to non-iOS app support that buying an ipod for £200+ or ipad for £250+, in addition to your existing £185 phone (price according to google), is considered a sensible option. There might be less bad feeling if nstream didn't exist at all.

 

Steve.

Use the control point that works with your server.  You don't need Nstream. 

Posted on: 27 November 2013 by beeka
Originally Posted by timster:
Personally, I feel that Naim should be given some latitude as they build up their software team and their experience. They are after all an audio business first. i am sure when the business conditions are right an android version will appear .... But until such time an iPhone or iPad is the way to go. I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it. 

Timster

That Naim produce a range of decent streamers at all is to be commended but that automatically raises software / service issues which they can not ignore. I bought a Uniti1 at least three years ago (possibly four) and the lack of Android / BB / WinPhone software did not stop me buying or enjoying it. So I would claim that latitude has already been given and while I know they are considering an android app, there is no indication that one is being developed. Meanwhile, new features are being added to nstream that are not supported via UPnP/DLNA control points (e.g. on-device playlists). I don't think it is unreasonable that people occasionally show their frustration that the current "solution" is to spend another £200 on an otherwise unwanted device.

 

Steve.

 

Posted on: 27 November 2013 by DavidDever

On-device (i.e., on-renderer) playlists are not part of the original UPnP standard; there are (at least) two implementations that are (more widely) used, OpenHome (as used by Linn et al) and the StreamUnlimited variety (Naim et al), if I understand correctly.

 

As far as Android-based tablets are concerned, their market share (at least in the United States) is still a bit behind Apple, which makes app development for iOS tablets a first priority.  (Android phones, on the other hand, are more prevalent, though these vary wildly as far as device resolution and installed OS version is concerned.) 

 

There are far fewer UPnP / DLNA apps for Android than iOS, given a quick survey of both the iTunes App and Google Play marketplaces-that said, these UPnP / DLNA apps will not typically accommodate on-device playlists unless the apps are also OpenHome-compatible (e.g., PlugPlayer).  There are, naturally, quite a few UPnP / DLNA apps for Windows Phone, none of which support on-device playlists, however.

 

Note that OpenHome-compatible apps are available on both platforms; I have yet to see a StreamUnlimited-compatible app on Android (though I know that they are coming, at some point).

 

I also know of at least six other manufacturers whose products utilize OpenHome-compatible on-device playlists, service descriptions for which can be easily found via a quick web search.  The same applies to product-based services such as input selection and volume control.

Posted on: 29 November 2013 by beeka

I am familiar with OpenHome and I think BubbleUPnP (my android control point of choice) supports it but have no renderers that do. Consistent application of the basic DLNA / UPnP standard is patchy at best and adoption of an additional layer, such as OpenHome, has little chance of becoming widespread unless it ends up in the DLNA standard... and even then it will take a long time.


The last time I looked at the service description for Naim devices, nothing jumped out as being anything other than vanilla DLNA / UPnP. I have not seen a StreamUnlimited API document.

 

As I understand it, there is nothing to stop a manufacturer adding an input selection API to their UPnP service description and documenting that. Given the number of different mobile OS people are using these days, it would be difficult for any manufacturer to support them all but using well documented standards would allow someone else to take up the slack (e.g. develop a BB10 app).

 

Steve.