why again are Naim streamers not supporting Spotify?
Posted by: Louis-Andre on 25 November 2013
Does Spotify offer downloads like Qobuz (CD quality and hi-res) ?
Is the catalogue as extensive ?
I dont doubt Naim streamers sound good with Cd rips or less but think they are optimised for higher quality source material.The fact is the likes of Linn and Naim dont rate Spotify.
Does Spotify offer downloads like Qobuz (CD quality and hi-res) ? No
Is the catalogue as extensive ? Yes (more extensive)
Hi Jan,
Spotify doesn't offer downloads (although you can sync songs to your device and play them when not connected to internet) and 320kb/s is as good as it gets.
I had assumed Spotify has a bigger library than Qobuz, but perhaps not?
Keith
The fact is the likes of Linn and Naim dont rate Spotify.
Unlike Naim, Linn does offer an app, Songcast, that will stream Spotify.
Songcast was developed by a Linn user as no app existed at the time. It's an open source product, hence, quite different to Naim's proprietary nStream. AFAIK Linn don't offer an app themselves.
Songcast was developed by a Linn user as no app existed at the time. It's an open source product, hence, quite different to Naim's proprietary nStream. AFAIK Linn don't offer an app themselves.
They have AirPlay though, which is already a much more elegant solution than having to deal with an extra box for the same thing.
Songcast was developed by a Linn user as no app existed at the time. It's an open source product, hence, quite different to Naim's proprietary nStream. AFAIK Linn don't offer an app themselves.
It's offered on their website so it must be recognised by Linn.
Songcast is an audio device driver for mac and windows that sends any kind of audio output to the selected Linn DS. The multi room feature which replicates an audio stream to another DS is also called Songcast and uses the same protocol. All very neatly designed and also works with hires music up to 24/192.
There is no Songcast for iOS or Android devices. For iOS one can use Airplay (sometimes called "NetAux" by Linn). For Android I don't know.
And then there is the Kinsky app but this is only for controlling a streamer device like n-stream does for Naim devices.
Seems like the Logitech Squeezebox devices, Touch, Duet, are really excellent VFM compared to Linn and Naim streamers. I can stream all the music on my PC, listen to Spotify, internet radio, there's a Qoduz app available and control it all from my Andriod device(s). And it all sounds pretty good as well IMHO. Obviously Spotify at 320kbps is not as good as lossless formats, e.g. FLAC or ALAC. Why were they ever discontinued?
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a Low Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
This argument does not hold water. Does it mean that in the same way, it should also not play anything lesser than 16bit/44khz?
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a Low Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
Because its nice with some back ground music sometimes and the idea to have 2 different systems that handles this is quite disappointing.
//jonas
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a Low Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
Because its nice with some back ground music sometimes and the idea to have 2 different systems that handles this is quite disappointing.
//jonas
+1
Songcast is an audio device driver for mac and windows that sends any kind of audio output to the selected Linn DS. The multi room feature which replicates an audio stream to another DS is also called Songcast and uses the same protocol. All very neatly designed and also works with hires music up to 24/192.
There is no Songcast for iOS or Android devices. For iOS one can use Airplay (sometimes called "NetAux" by Linn). For Android I don't know.
And then there is the Kinsky app but this is only for controlling a streamer device like n-stream does for Naim devices.
Sounds like Linn has some good software options. I thought I read in another thread that Kinsky works on Naim streamers. I wonder if it is possible to use Linn's airplay app and bypass Nstream altogether?
Songcast is an audio device driver for mac and windows that sends any kind of audio output to the selected Linn DS. The multi room feature which replicates an audio stream to another DS is also called Songcast and uses the same protocol. All very neatly designed and also works with hires music up to 24/192.
There is no Songcast for iOS or Android devices. For iOS one can use Airplay (sometimes called "NetAux" by Linn). For Android I don't know.
And then there is the Kinsky app but this is only for controlling a streamer device like n-stream does for Naim devices.
Sounds like Linn has some good software options. I thought I read in another thread that Kinsky works on Naim streamers. I wonder if it is possible to use Linn's airplay app and bypass Nstream altogether?
Yes, Kinsky works with Naim.
have tested it
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a (Low) Medium (320kbps) Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
I'm a fan of Spotify but Naim are putting their money on Qobuz (Hi-res) coming to a streamer near you next Mon 2 Dec.
And you know this for sure?
That's what it says:
Is a List of the 4000 hi res records avaliable?
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a (Low) Medium (320kbps) Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
I'm a fan of Spotify but Naim are putting their money on Qobuz (Hi-res) coming to a streamer near you next Mon 2 Dec.
And you know this for sure?
That's what it says:
Is a List of the 4000 hi res records avaliable?
4296 at the moment
http://www.qobuz.com/qualite/S...gement-ecoute-albums
cheers
Aleg
Songcast is an audio device driver for mac and windows that sends any kind of audio output to the selected Linn DS. The multi room feature which replicates an audio stream to another DS is also called Songcast and uses the same protocol. All very neatly designed and also works with hires music up to 24/192.
There is no Songcast for iOS or Android devices. For iOS one can use Airplay (sometimes called "NetAux" by Linn). For Android I don't know.
And then there is the Kinsky app but this is only for controlling a streamer device like n-stream does for Naim devices.
Sounds like Linn has some good software options. I thought I read in another thread that Kinsky works on Naim streamers. I wonder if it is possible to use Linn's airplay app and bypass Nstream altogether?
Yes, Kinsky works with Naim.
have tested it
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Why should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a (Low) Medium (320kbps) Fi product like Spotify ?
Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res Music
I'm a fan of Spotify but Naim are putting their money on Qobuz (Hi-res) coming to a streamer near you next Mon 2 Dec.
And you know this for sure?
That's what it says:
Is a List of the 4000 hi res records avaliable?
Wow
every Single One avaliable in the store
Qobuz, at first glance, does not have any heavier stuff in their selection. Is this some kind of statement from Naim toward fans of heavy rock and metal music?
Qobuz, at first glance, does not have any heavier stuff in their selection. Is this some kind of statement from Naim toward fans of heavy rock and metal music?
Strange remark, as if Naim determines the catalog of Qobuz?
What are you missing?
Black sabbat
metallica
ac/dc
anthrax
e.g.
More about metal in this thread:
https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...332#7057894847839332
That's painfully low compared to Spotify's claim to 20 million songs; indeed there are whole genres where Qobuz has little to nothing.
It's clearly not a replacement, IMO, regardless of the audio quality.