why again are Naim streamers not supporting Spotify?

Ricsimas

those are only high-resolution albums, so complete albums and not songs. Spotify doesn't even offer CD-quality let alone high res music.

the total number of albums, again albums not just songs, is uncountable by the search options they offer, but they have albums from nearly 5000 labels, ranging from 8500 albums from the largest label to 1 for the smallest labels.

So your remark is ridiculous and completely uninformed.

cheers

aleg

Thanks Louie,

That answers my question from yesterday and tells me that I want both on Naim Streamers.

We know are getting Airplay because Paul Stevens has told it's simple and It's going to happen.

What we really need, though is the apps fo be in streamer with tablets acting as control points. This would provide better sound quality and I believe is how Spotify Connect works. I wonder if this is can bd done by a simple patch too? 

Keith

I understand that there are some people that are Spotify dependent...for most, I assume it is a way to hear new music, but on IRadio there are approx 10,000 radio stations from the entire globe, from Mozambique to Papua New Guinea. There are over 1,000 radio stations in the UK alone, for example. If you can't find new music in that lot......?

But, as I have not felt the desire to get into Spotify, I don't know what it's full potential is. I guess you can make your own Radio collection and music collection? Those people that I know who are Spotify addicted are those that tend not to have a significant personal music collection, and therefore probably a minority.

But as I say, I may be missing the point?

Jason.

Indeed - you are absolutely right that I'm uninformed, as it's not even offered in my region, so it might as well offer nothing as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps it's something that VPN will sort out for the streaming bit or is even that not necessary? I'm not sure I want to pay to find that out. Let me see what I can get from poking around their website.

That said, the original quote I mentioned was in the context of streaming (look it up again), so at least that bit of the service is of very limited use given its paltry catalogue - so my sentiment is not absurd.

Additionally, I did do a quick search on their website and at least on the downloads part (which I think is the only bit I can search, unless you point me otherwise) I didn't find anything I was looking for - hence my comment that at least based on what I was seeing it wouldn't be a replacement.

Sorry if that offends you.

There are other ways of finding new music - however, most of the curators (magazines, blogs, etc.) I follow would point you directly to a spotify playlist for the albums being reviewed. I find that quite convenient.

Add the fact that I use Spotify to share findings with friends and it becomes about more than just randomly finding new music.

I don't consider Spotify my music collection (I'm actually primarily a vinyl spinner) but I think it's an useful tool.

Again, all this would be sorted if we could just get AirPlay on it and stream directly from the apps themselves.

I also use Spotify as a tool to find new music and would welcome the inclusion on my NDX (it would save a box). I use my Sonos through the Digital In on the NDX, which works ok, but not ideal having to switch digital inputs. At least the Sonos App is very good and saves any messing around with Airplay to get Spotify playing.

Sorry, but the worst thing I can imagine is, in this day and age, having specific hardware for something that is provided online in a bit of hardware that is already connected to the Internet.

Depends on the price to implement all together on One Board!

3 Cards to Plug are for sure more expansive than the implementation on the PCB directly

It's not about the price - we are talking software here. Requiring hardware changes to support web services is absurd, given how fast those change.

This is right.

But in this case you think about of a kind of software to implement.

So, the customer hat to pay for it or maybe Naim has to pay the license for the service!?

How ever, if it is just a piece if software I would be supprised.

Not only by the fact it self, as well to the fact that it is just a big story to implement it.

In this case the provide should supply it.

The software is provided by the provider in the form of an API, which calls should be embedded by Naim in its software to integrate it in the user interface that Naim offers on its streamers.

IMO it's not that a big deal, once they have the concept of integrating external services into their user interfaces And which I believe they have with iRadio support, maybe not fully iRadio lacking catalogue support.

cheers

aleg

Based on Naim's statements the streamers equipped with (at least) the 24/192 boards have the necessary hardware to run airplay (with a firmware (i.e., software) update).  So this is simply a software issue, which to date Naim has been unwilling or unable to resolve/implement.  

I'm not thinking about the point to use airplay in case of streaming spotify/qobuz.

Should be directly out of the internet and done inside the streamer itself.

QUOTEWhy should a Premium Hi-Fi product like Naim Streamers support a Low Fi product like Spotify ?

Naim streamers only really give their best when fed High Res MusicQUOTE

Wimp HIFI is now out there with lossless streaming in Flac etc 

I take it for granted that in the future this kind of steaming will be integrated in Naim products  also like most other streames

Given that you can stream anything from a computer to a Naim streamer (even if some don't know how), including Spotify I cannot understand why you, Louis-Andre, are the one clearly upset on this topic (not Aleg).  Perhaps some would like Facebook and Twitter directly on their Naim gear as well. Hopefully Naim will continue its prudent path of only adding features that do not detract from the sound quality.

 Given the furore that followed a breakdown of  vtuner I wonder who, in their right mind, would want to get into partnership with a firm that has had so much difficulty over its payments to artists and who continue to have difficulty gaining rights to some labels music. 

QOBUZ arrives tomorrow. Spotty Who?

Andy

This might be the reason why Naim are not bothered to embed spotify in their streaming products. The media futurist Gerd Leonhard gives Spotify only five more years before it dies.

info,the way to go

http://magazine.wimp.no/2013/0...ess-music-streaming/

Sometimes, this hunger for choice leaves one confused. Sometimes it's better not to have too much choice as you end up pissing everyone off.

I once had a discussion with an IT guy about what it was that upset him so much regarding Apple products. At the time, he said that he would not buy Apple products because Apple would not provide a radio on the IPhone, as according to him, Steve Jobs had once said that the technology was not good enough for the IPhone... in many ways an attitude to be admired You would think. So as he was not given that choice, he had developed a dislike for Apple...a negative emotion. Having the choice was more important to him than quality to such an extent that he now boycotted Apple products, 

It's a little like lab rats being experimented on with various reward/punisher tech conditioning.

You just can't please everybody

Jason.

Not if you live in the UK! Well not yet anyway.

Just been having a look at Qobuz which started in the UK today. Initial impressions are not very good. Did a search for Bob Dylan, came back with a list of 609 artists. The albums they did have were fairly limited in number. I think you have to go to the France site for downloads. Compared to Spotify I think the interface was pretty poor as well.

I don't know where music streaming will be in 5 years time but at the moment Spotify offers, at 320kbps and a large library, the best medium-fi music streaming service. IMHO.

Strange. I search for Bob Dylan and came up with 118 albums, all by Bob Dylan. I am located in France.

I really tried to stay away for this topic. Spotify is good if you listen to middle-of-the -road, easy listening music.  I tried it for 48hs and  most  of the stuff I searched for could not be found but I can find them on CD or Vinyl. If you fancy listening to an unsigned band who have just released an Ep, just forget about. Money spinner, I say!

DRM restricted by four major labels.Should be called SpotiSucks!

+1 Tony.

Rubbish. There are things on there you have definitely never heard of.