Mac Music Players

Posted by: naimUnT on 29 December 2013

I've been testing several Mac music players (Pure Music, Audirvana Plus, Decibel, Amarra & Fidelia) and after weeks of comparisons, I've found that the rankings are (best to worse)/

1. Fidelia
2. Audirvana Plus
3. Amarra
4. Decibel
5. Pure Music

I would add that my preference is based on my audio system, room environment and my own pair of ears. Fidelia sounds very analog-like and connects me to the music in a way that the others don't. It seems to take away that last bit of digititis while bringing me closer to my vinyl source. Fidelia is also attractively priced and integrates well with iTunes. 2014 will see me moving even closer to computer audio.

Hope this helps forum members who are looking for an audiophile quality music player for their Mac.
Posted on: 29 December 2013 by Andrew Porter

I would agree with Fidelia but haven't tried Decibel and Pure Music. I also think that Bit Perfect is very good to,especially with its background integration with iTunes, and its the cheapest!

Posted on: 29 December 2013 by dzambolaja

I wholeheartedly, too, recommend Bit Perfect!  It is inexpensive, easy to use and it does make the difference.  Integration with iTunes is a good thing for those who rely on iTunes for music management.

 

Bobby

 

Posted on: 29 December 2013 by Zeny
Try clementine as well. It is very good.
Posted on: 19 April 2014 by Adrian F.

Has someone tried the sound quality of the "JRiver Media Center" on Mac?

 

It seems to be very popular amongst the Win users and is available for OS X by now...

 

http://www.jriver.com/download.html

Posted on: 19 April 2014 by garyi

I couldn't get past the appalling windows looking interface and the fact it seems to be some sort of java applet or something, the menus are terrible to work with and its very much an alpha release.

 

I'll try and give it a go tommoz, its come on a bit since the last time I tried where is simply crashed on startup.

Posted on: 19 April 2014 by Tog
Originally Posted by garyi:

I couldn't get past the appalling windows looking interface and the fact it seems to be some sort of java applet or something, the menus are terrible to work with and its very much an alpha release.

 

I'll try and give it a go tommoz, its come on a bit since the last time I tried where is simply crashed on startup.

Agreed and prefer Audirvana +

 

Tog

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by tonym

I recently tried J River for Mac, but I found it pretty diabolical.  I'm sure it'll do lots of clever things but for playing music it's mediocre, even ignoring its lousy interface. Very good iPad app though.

 

I've finally settled on Amarra Symphony with iRC room correction software. Expensive but really excellent.

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Hi, I use Jriver on OSX. Agree that the UI is not the best, however does seem to offer direct media access as well as controlling the Naim network player via UPnP including loading the Naim playlist buffer. The direct media playback does offer some interesting DSP options.

Simon

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Kevin Richardson
Originally Posted by Adrian F.:
 
I've tried all the previously mentioned programs and JRiver.  I chose JRiver for both my usb->v1-headphones and streaming to my NDX.  [I run two instances 1 on a OSX 10.8 VM]  It provides great sound along with sophisticated library management capabilities.  [The other programs rely on iTunes]
 
The early versions for OSX were pretty buggy but now runs rock solid for months at a time with 0 problems.

Has someone tried the sound quality of the "JRiver Media Center" on Mac?

 

It seems to be very popular amongst the Win users and is available for OS X by now...

 

http://www.jriver.com/download.html

 

 

 

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Jude2012

My experience, is here https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...35#34652896691788035

 

 

 Audirvana works well. The play list mode needs a computer to operate but I can use it well enough via an iPad mini and Moca VNC Lite.  The SQ from play list mode is amazing, too

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by elkman70

Does it make any difference which music player you use if you have Asynchronous USB?

 

Regards,

 

Nick

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by elkman70:

Does it make any difference which music player you use if you have Asynchronous USB?

 

Regards,

 

Nick

Good question. If the data stream received by the asynchronous USB input is BitPerfect then it's all down to the DAC isn't it? It's then only a question of which user interface you prefer.

 

Dave

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

Hi, I use Jriver on OSX. Agree that the UI is not the best, however does seem to offer direct media access as well as controlling the Naim network player via UPnP including loading the Naim playlist buffer. The direct media playback does offer some interesting DSP options.

Simon

Hi Simon

 

Are you saying Jriver can act as a UPnP server, or are you connecting it via USB .?

 

Graeme

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by garyi

I see no options for connecting to network music or playing to network devices, all I could find in the utterly utterly dreadful interface was media network but the interface is so terrible that the 'setup info' button does not work.

 

I find it amazing anyone could use this day to day, clicking on things constantly results in the window behind coming forward as if it didn't exist.

 

It looks like that will be the interface moving forward, I see no reason they would have java style menus etc unless that was what it was built upon. For my money I would far prefer something built for mac such as plex. Or dare I say it in this instance, itunes.

 

It actually reminds me a bit of songbird, which is another terrible cross platform abomination, at least jriver is not using 100% cpu like songbird does lols.

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by garyi

Nope, hang on, hold the fort some servers have appeared. Lets have a play then.

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by garyi

There was a problem retrieving files from the selected DLNA Server.

 

Moving on, lifes to short haha.

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by garyi:

There was a problem retrieving files from the selected DLNA Server.

 

Moving on, lifes to short haha.

Garyi, you've lost me there. Are you saying it can act as a UPnP server but your having trouble getting it to work. Looked at this before but have to say find computer audio way too confusing

 

Graeme

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Tog

An awful lot of UPnP servers are either dreadful, require serious bug fixes or some hacking to get working well. The only ones I have found remotely usable are

 

miniDLNA (aka ready DLNA) 

Logitech Server (latest version is excellent)

minimserver 

Plex - brilliant for Video - rapidly improving for audio

 

Many for the Mac are terrible and yes I'm talking about those venerable PC servers currently in OSX beta. Asset for PC works very well if you are prepared to put up with Windows which for a whole multitude of reasons I'm not. 

 

Currently I'm using Logitech Server to stream and Squeezelite via async USB from my Vortexbox powered TogServer. Incidentally the latest version of VB - 2.3 is excellent and very stable. 

 

Tog

 

 

 

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by garyi

Foxman my upnp servers appeared, none of them worked with jriver even though they work with everything else I have tried them with. 

 

Please be assured my interest is not high, I was not looking for a renderer, which is good because jriver is shite on osx.

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by garyi:

Foxman my upnp servers appeared, none of them worked with jriver even though they work with everything else I have tried them with. 

 

Please be assured my interest is not high, I was not looking for a renderer, which is good because jriver is shite on osx.

Are the mac software renderers, if thats the term, that act like a UPnP streamer. I use minimserver on my Synology, and i know that the likes of itunes and Jriver can play via USB but is there software that can act as a streamer over ethernet. Thats any good that is

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by garyi

Sorry confusing my own terminology I meant to say I was not after a control point for UPNP.

 

I think its a sad situation for OSX that this software is even considered by the likes of simon who clearly has a lot of experience, its one of the down sides of mac, itunes killed music reproduction in all its forms on mac and consequently we are around 6 years behind PC.

 

To accept jriver as a viable application is because, put simply nothing else exists. Songbook had promise but seems to have died, seriously what else is there? Kinksy seems to be about it.

 

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Foxman, JRIver can do both when running on my MacBook Pro. However I tend to use Asset on my Raspberry Pi as my Naim UPnP server. Its always on and costs very little to run. 

Simon

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

Foxman, JRIver can do both when running on my MacBook Pro. However I tend to use Asset on my Raspberry Pi as my Naim UPnP server. Its always on and costs very little to run. 

Simon

 

Sorry i think what i was actually asking is if it can act as a software streamer (get so confused with all these terms). Basically to do the same job as the NDX into a DAC via ethernet

 

i tried the PI but couldn't get it to go into sleep mode, wanted this so it would let the NAS sleep as i didn't  want the disks running 24/7

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by George J
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by elkman70:

Does it make any difference which music player you use if you have Asynchronous USB?

 

Regards,

 

Nick

Good question. If the data stream received by the asynchronous USB input is BitPerfect then it's all down to the DAC isn't it? It's then only a question of which user interface you prefer.

 

Dave

So use iTunes. Works "perfick!" Bit perfick.

 

ATB from  George

Posted on: 20 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by George J:
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by elkman70:

Does it make any difference which music player you use if you have Asynchronous USB?

 

Regards,

 

Nick

Good question. If the data stream received by the asynchronous USB input is BitPerfect then it's all down to the DAC isn't it? It's then only a question of which user interface you prefer.

 

Dave

So use iTunes. Works "perfick!" Bit perfick.

 

ATB from  George

I thought, going by what people say, they all sounded different, i haven't tried any by the way, which is why people prefer different software. God i thought streaming was hard to get my head around but computer audio seems worse.