Do you play a musical instrument?

Posted by: Loki on 30 December 2013

Here in the hallowed halls of Valhalla, listening to the minstrels playing, I muse whether there be a correlation between Naim ownership and musicianship? Does an interest in music-making spill over into an interest in music reproduction? Is such a relationship necessary, contingent or neither? 

 

Here in Valhalla we are schooled in classical, acoustic and electric guitar/bass; kit percussion; singing; and flute. We feel that the every day experience of live music helps our appreciation of our Naim system.

 

What do you think?

Posted on: 05 February 2014 by Loki

I had to post, just to get us to 301.

 

Jan, I'm going to need some time with a dictionary of critical terminology.

 

Contingent upon the ego and the music and the position of the two in relation to the weight of the speaker mass too.   If you actually like holding the stuff - like this, or prefer a cloud base for it all. It doesn't matter if he's a magician or not. 

 

Char, you'll have to unpack that a little. The Norse translator's not up to much currently. 

Posted on: 05 February 2014 by jimmy 339

Though with respect Char, you are in no doubt more knowledgeable of novelists and their works than I am or likely ever will be, I am northern, working class, and didn't go to college (not that these are necessarily prerequisites for ignorance). I personally can not grasp the link you describe to musicianship that Loki originally conjectured.

 

Anyway this is all getting a bit decadent and writerish!?(see what I mean), for me so I am off to practice my arpeggios and chromatics, and will return when I understand the subject matter.

 

Regards Jim.

 

Posted on: 05 February 2014 by jimmy 339

Wow! Man, that must be some good tea!

 

Cheerio Jim.

Posted on: 05 February 2014 by Loki

Why've we moved to the padded cell?

Posted on: 05 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Loki:

Why've we moved to the padded cell?

Indeed, especially as this thread is now about to get serious, since you moved us to 301.

 

Originally Posted by Loki:

I had to post, just to get us to 301.

... all is explained here :

 

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Posted on: 05 February 2014 by Loki

Exactly Jan. 

 

Tume away Char. 

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

No don't do that you might Buster Blood vessel. Why not take up the guitar instead you'll, find it ever so relaxing!

 

Mmmm, breathe in.  Jim.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:
Hello Adam, an Oedipal struggle as far as literature goes is dealing as always in symbolic language.
 
 
Originally Posted by Char Wallah: What I'm saying is that all artists, musicians or writers, are psychologically in conflict with the image of a "master" figure, who they struggle to overcome artistically with their works, and whose position in the hierarchy they try to replace with their own artistic achievements.  

 

So a literary text can also be read as a site of conflict between the author and a preceding literary canon of authoritative texts he is writing against.  I think Orwell was reputedly to have remarked that 1984 was going to make T.S.Eliot piss his pants.  Burroughs was in a similar conflict with James Joyce's presence in the literary business, and seemed to overcome this somewhat through his cut up techniques, which Samuel Beckett likened to plumbing. When Beckett was asked about the amount of obscenity portrayed in The Naked Lunch he replied : "Well, he's a writer.".

Sorry to bring this up again Char, Just trying to get a grip.

 

I as an amateur guitarist am not in conflict psychologically or otherwise with Django Reinhardt, Martin Taylor, or Eddie Van Halen. I know my place and I am perfectly happy to be in it, and I have no intention of making Joe Bonamassa "piss his pants", and with regard to the subliminal message laced within the last piece of gibberish (again no offence intended). I will keep plugging, because that is where the pleasure lies. I listen to some music on great kit, then I go and play and maybe try to copy some stuff, badly perhaps, but feel like I might have gained.

 

There is no need (for me) for pretence or monetary gain.

 

Regards Jim.

 

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

Perhaps you could describe me as an "artistic pacifist" ,but I doubt very much that I am the only one with this outlook.

 

Regards Jim.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:
Originally Posted by jimmy 339:
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:
Hello Adam, an Oedipal struggle as far as literature goes is dealing as always in symbolic language.
 
 
Originally Posted by Char Wallah: What I'm saying is that all artists, musicians or writers, are psychologically in conflict with the image of a "master" figure, who they struggle to overcome artistically with their works, and whose position in the hierarchy they try to replace with their own artistic achievements.  

 

So a literary text can also be read as a site of conflict between the author and a preceding literary canon of authoritative texts he is writing against.  I think Orwell was reputedly to have remarked that 1984 was going to make T.S.Eliot piss his pants.  Burroughs was in a similar conflict with James Joyce's presence in the literary business, and seemed to overcome this somewhat through his cut up techniques, which Samuel Beckett likened to plumbing. When Beckett was asked about the amount of obscenity portrayed in The Naked Lunch he replied : "Well, he's a writer.".

Sorry to bring this up again Char, Just trying to get a grip.

 

I as an amateur guitarist am not in conflict psychologically or otherwise with Django Reinhardt, Martin Taylor, or Eddie Van Halen. I know my place and I am perfectly happy to be in it, and I have no intention of making Joe Bonamassa "piss his pants", and with regard to the subliminal message laced within the last piece of gibberish (again no offence intended). I will keep plugging, because that is where the pleasure lies. I listen to some music on great kit, then I go and play and maybe try to copy some stuff, badly perhaps, but feel like I might have gained.

 

There is no need (for me) for pretence or monetary gain.

 

Regards Jim.

 

 

Your just in denial, that's all. That, and you lack ambition.

My dear, a real artist needs to aspire, to dare. To create.

I can also hear the late Quentin Crisp describing my ideals as "wretchedly tedious".

 

Aren't they Eddie Readers lyrics?

 

Regards Jimmy.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

Sorry I don't think you seem to grasp the essence of my point. I think we would both agree that the guitar solo on Beefhearts "further than than we've gone" is both sumptuous and uplifting, and I can, there or thereabouts play it. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that I want to replay that track in a covers band, its the learning of the hand\finger positions that are memorised (not necessarily in the mind its like an automatic reflex,with enough practice.) And can be reused and interlaced with your own new music, provided its in the same key.

 

Regards Jimmy.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

Oh ho ho Char how droll!

 

"We can be quick-witted or very intelligent, but not both."

 

Stephen Hawking  The universe in a nutshell  page 168 paragraph 2.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

But what has that to do with the musician appreciating naim equipment, I think my explanation is best So, ner-ner-nerner ner.

 

Toodle loo. Jimmy.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by jimmy 339

"Oooh,  ... Cheeky!.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by Loki

don't delay, send off for a copy today and start your course to the stars now

 

Char: you've just broken a major forum rule!

 

 think of it as being both the best and the worst at the same time.

 

Yep, can do that. Not hard.

 

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times

 

Remind me, wasn't Dickens that brilliant Victorian satirist? I just can't take him seriously.

 

 

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Loki

Bemused. I don't do bored. That's the advantage of being a Johnsonian Grub Street journalist.

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

It appears that mice kept in the dark (about what?) for several weeks improved their hearing.

 

If I sleep longer will I hear better?

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

They have posited that the cats may make other meaningful  sounds  for communicating with each other.  

I'll have to post a video of my cat telling me "Feed me and make it snappy f*ckwit".

 

But, since "studies of adult brain plasticity have shown that substantial improvement in function and/or recovery from losses in sensation, cognition, memory, motor control, and affect should be possible, using appropriately designed behavioral training paradigms", surely there has to be a way to reorganize my disorganized and tinnitic auditory cortex, or so you would think.

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

I'll go with paranoid, in this case.

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Steve J

You're just a heavy metal merchant Jan.  

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Steve J:

You're just a heavy metal merchant Jan.  

You're right, amongst other duties I defend my employer against regulatory abuses by health and safety inspectors. Their latest one was to declare that trace levels of lead on floors, from aging lead-containing paint, posed risks to health. My employer has just spent well over $600 000 of taxpayers' money to "clean up" and seal floors to comply with the inspectors' demands. Although we clearly demonstrated that airborne exposure and workers' blood lead were below the limits of detection, apparently facts don't matter.   

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

Well they need to something p.d.q. as people start living longer but their brain cells have all died. 

And that's where practicing on a musical instrument comes in. Regrow them ! I may be convincing myself that intensely focused listening to music has a similar effect, but I may be delusional.

But what if big pharma already has the tinnitus cure, and they're not telling us ? Who stands to benefit ?

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

Definitely keeping the brain box stimulated as much as possible is a help to ward off the effects of an ageing brain.

So, if exercice stimulates the brain - I walk therefore I think - and walking is movement, then dancing must be even more effective... because... dancing is inextricable from music (well it was originally). So when I listen intently to music I am dancing in my brain. Can you feel the myelin ? 

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

Came across these while browsing at lunchtime. Epicurean (brand name) cutting boards made of the same high density and resin-impregnated fibre as skateboard ramps. As always, thoughts turned to music and as I stood tapping the board, I couldn't help but imagining one sitting under the DAC and another under the SN2, with the board sitting on roller bearings or points. There's even a hole for the cables. Well, if they don't work, I suppose they'll make great cutting boards. About 35 bucks each.

 

Posted on: 07 February 2014 by George J

Mr Tea-maker,

 

What is you instrument and when did you last play it?

 

If you don't play an instrument, what value your contributions to what was quite reasonable thread in the Music Room?

 

ATB from George