blu ray player advice

Posted by: davidf on 09 January 2014

hi, I have Pioneer plasma 43" and just purchased Sony ST7 soundbar, a pricy but reasonably effective upgrade on the sound. I want to replace my 5 yr old Denon DVD player with a  blu ray with hopes of both renting or buying discs but more likely streaming from Netflix.  I was reading good things about the Sony BDP S5100 player which cost $99 US dollars.  Any experience with this?  Any other recommendations?  How do streamed movies from Netflix compare to the actual hard disc of the movie?

I will be using HDMI cable to connect to soundbar, have not much interest in 3D (though this player does do 3D) and I don't want to spend much more than the above player unless it really makes big difference. I gather that OPPO makes really good players but I don't think I`ll be using it enough to justify spending much more than $200 US .  Does blu ray improve both picture and sound compared to DVD? Any other advice appreciated. david

Posted on: 09 January 2014 by Cat lover
Originally Posted by davidf:

  Does blu ray improve both picture and sound compared to DVD? Any other advice appreciated. david

 

Blu ray definitely improves picture: the simplest way is that subtitles no longer appear pixelated; then landscapes look much better. Finally, you can see the pores in faces in close-ups (perhaps we didn't need that). :-) 

 

I assume that there should be a substantial sound improvement on a good system, but I've never bothered to do the A to B comparison. I watch Blu Ray for the picture.

Posted on: 09 January 2014 by N16SPS

Hi David,

 

Get a quality blu ray player but don't waste your money on the discs - the up rez scaler in your player will increase the picture quality automatically the blu ray disc is a bit of a marketing trick for the extra 10 - 15 quid its not worth it.

Posted on: 10 January 2014 by rackkit
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

Hi David,

 

Get a quality blu ray player but don't waste your money on the discs - the up rez scaler in your player will increase the picture quality automatically the blu ray disc is a bit of a marketing trick for the extra 10 - 15 quid its not worth it.

So upscaled DVDs have the same image quality as Blu-Ray discs - when did that happen? 

Posted on: 10 January 2014 by davidf

any other suggestions as to what player to get?  Anyone with experience with this particular Sony player?

Posted on: 10 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by rackkit:
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

Hi David,

 

Get a quality blu ray player but don't waste your money on the discs - the up rez scaler in your player will increase the picture quality automatically the blu ray disc is a bit of a marketing trick for the extra 10 - 15 quid its not worth it.

So upscaled DVDs have the same image quality as Blu-Ray discs - when did that happen? 

Well, no, of course not. But if your screen is small and/or you sit fairly well back, the difference won't be particularly noticeable. There is a very big difference if you have a large screen. At the approximately 3m viewing distance in our room, the difference was small on a 40" screen but is very noticeable on our new 60" screen.

 

I find a really big difference in sound quality. Blu-ray is very much better overall and the down-mixed stereo PCM feed to the SuperNait gives proper balance to the vocals. Many DVDs were/are mixed such that vocals were subdued without a centre channel or 5.1 system.

Posted on: 10 January 2014 by MDS

David - I have found that my Oppo Bluray player produces a superior picture and sound as compared to DVDs played on my Naim n-Vi, and n-Vi is/was one of the best in the business at DVD quality. The Oppo also produces a better picture with DVDs as compared to the n-Vi.

I've got no experience of the Sony player you are looking at but my earlier Samsung Bluray player which cost about £120 a few years ago was of markedly lower quality that my £500 Oppo and it didn't prove mechanically reliable either.  I can well understand your concern about cost v likely usage but I suspect if you go for a market entry level player the flimsiness of the touch and build quality will eventually jar with you, given the quality you have become accustomed to with your lovely, high-end olive system.  

MDS 

Posted on: 10 January 2014 by davidf

well went in different direction.  Got apple TV device, and  bagged the blu ray player.

Realized I had no intention of buying blu ray discs, now I can stream from I tunes, Netflix etc plus whole bunch of other streaming sources.

Will still keep my denon DVD hooked up but doubt will use much

Set up apple TV (such a tiny thing) and movie selection is great!  Plus if I want I can use my ipad to show home pics or videos on my TV.  I like it. david

Posted on: 11 January 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

Hi David,

 

Get a quality blu ray player but don't waste your money on the discs - the up rez scaler in your player will increase the picture quality automatically the blu ray disc is a bit of a marketing trick for the extra 10 - 15 quid its not worth it.

I really have to disagree wit this.

 

I have a £350 Samsung 32" HD TV, and a £50 LG Blu-ray player connected via a £15 HDMI cable (so nowhere near high-end kit) and the difference between a DVD and a Blu-ray disc is pretty staggering as far as I am concerned!

Posted on: 11 January 2014 by Mr Underhill
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

Hi David,

 

........

I really have to disagree wit this.

 

.......

I partially agree with the comment.

 

I still primarily buy DVD. I buy BluRay for big blockbusters.

 

The upscaling available through either your modern TV or player is impressive, I wouldn't use both at the same time. Can I tell the difference? This depends on the mastering and source, but most of the time I would say yes, BluRay is better, but I don't find it to be the same as the leap from Video to DVD, that was night and day.

 

Would I say this if I was using a 4k TV or projector? Don't know, as I don't - but I would love to hear from someone who does.

 

One other factor, soundtrack: Some on the forum are of the strong opinion that the HD tracks are better, I have heard differences, better I am not so sure of.

 

My personal preference for DVD is primarily driven by the fact that I rip my movies and prefer not to chunk through lots of HDD space for a marginal improvement in picture quality.

 

......that said, my wife noticed the quality uplift in the picture for one BluRay with no prompting. Horses, courses, mastering and all that jazz.

 

M

Posted on: 11 January 2014 by Mr Underhill

...and

 

I bought the cheap Sony BR player three years ago. I use an Oppo for the main system.

 

The Sony has performed faultlessly.

 

I use LoveFilm, which the Sony streams for me. I use this on a SD Panny, and on that it looks fine. The soundtrack is not HD, and I only use it in Stereo, which I think is all that is available.

 

In the context of a secondary non-HD system the Sony/LoveFilm solution is great. I haven't plugged it into my main system.

 

M

Posted on: 12 January 2014 by ewemon

Personally I use an OPPO myself and it is a very nice bit of kit.

Posted on: 14 January 2014 by rackkit
Originally Posted by Mr Underhill:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

Hi David,

 

........

I really have to disagree wit this.

 

.......

I partially agree with the comment.

 

I still primarily buy DVD. I buy BluRay for big blockbusters.

 

The upscaling available through either your modern TV or player is impressive, I wouldn't use both at the same time. Can I tell the difference? This depends on the mastering and source, but most of the time I would say yes, BluRay is better, but I don't find it to be the same as the leap from Video to DVD, that was night and day.

 

Would I say this if I was using a 4k TV or projector? Don't know, as I don't - but I would love to hear from someone who does.

 

One other factor, soundtrack: Some on the forum are of the strong opinion that the HD tracks are better, I have heard differences, better I am not so sure of.

 

My personal preference for DVD is primarily driven by the fact that I rip my movies and prefer not to chunk through lots of HDD space for a marginal improvement in picture quality.

 

......that said, my wife noticed the quality uplift in the picture for one BluRay with no prompting. Horses, courses, mastering and all that jazz.

 

M

For the small difference in price between Blu-Ray & DVD these days, along with how much I've invested in my kit, it's BR every time for me. Picture & HD sound are well worth it for me. Expecting Blu-Ray to become cheaper when 4k hardware & software become 'mainstream' too.