New Forum Feedback - Part II

I did, but Paul's writing sometimes leaves much open to interpretation, as this exchange is showing !

Regards,

Jan

Let's see now... Libya, tanking stock markets, disappearing water tables, global warming... and we're worrying about blank space on a forum  ... whoops, off topic again, sorry.

I find it unbelievable that hoopless are charging any thing for this, let alone a premium to make it a some way decent layout, to do a basic job properly.

After all the ACTUAL responses are the forum, the other pages are the bling and can easily be different.

Sounds like todays usual reponse of won't rather than can't.

Thanks Don spot on.

How can I turn off the push notification of new forum posts to my e-mail. Much as I love you all, I can't have you filling up my work e-mail inbox.
Hope there is a solution, or I will have to stop posting here; sighs of relief all round.

Rockingdoc, you can switch off some or all e-mail notifications from within your personal settings (click on notifications to see the menu).

Many thanks, but now you'll have to continue to put up with me.

This format still looks like a dogs dinner to me.

Main gripes are wasted space, poor layout, no thread starters name on thread listings and lack of contrast.

I wonder if they who make the decisions about appearance have any idea of what someone with lesser eyesight has to deal with at the moment. Being regularly involved in decisions and offering advice to clients about clear signage and contrast of building components for those with less than ideal eyesight, I do understand many of the issues, and this appearance is poor. The old format was exemplary and clearly had some thought and consideration for ALL users and was not discriminatory like this format is.

Julian

All your points are valid IMHO, as are a fair number of points made by o few others. However, although we have had two main threads (and one or two minor threads) commenting on the new forum (probably more than 2,000 posts in aggregate) only two meaningful changes have been introduced (quotes and search).

I have concluded that the purpose of both threads has very little to do with Hoop.la discovering what needs to be done to get this forum up to scratch (and then doing something about it), the threads are primarily designed to function like the pressure expansion reservoir in your car's water cooled engine - basically, their function is to let off steam.

Cheers

Don

Thanks Don.

I have not been following this thread so have probably missed loads of good feedback and remain perhaps a little more optimistic that something will be done to improve further. Only time will tell.

If it does not change, I will still visit but probably less often.

Cheers, Julian

This is my 11,111th post - not that anybody could tell without any in depth research.

"their function is to let off steam"
Don, really c'mon be serious, you know we are working things through, the search and quote were not just tweaks but essential elements, tweaks on the way.

I know there are more important things to get right or just get.

Grey blocks like "continue reading" and the grey blocks on the RHS of the pages could they be made actual buttons save having wander about within the block to find the link activating part?

just watched the first episode of "electric dreams" from bbc4 and your Comodore came in in 1979(i think)   - didn't look blue though!


great series if you haven't seen it.




SJB

the forum is cool. whoa. first post.

This thread is surely about trying to get the board back. All this shite doesn't help.

Worst forum look ever. Sorry, that's the most constructive thing I have to say.

Agree, it's the worst looking forum I've ever seen (and I think I've seen a few).
It makes me NOT wanna talk about Naim things, and that is hardly the purpose of this forum...

Very helpful those last 2 posts. If you can't think of anything constructive,  best say nothing. It saves people with better things to do at Naim HQ & Hoopla reading that kind of stuff.

At least give us a clue why you think its looks so bad,  and are you really serious that looks are more important to you than functionality.

I disagree Mike. This is a feedback thread, people should be allowed to express their views, however severe. There are people who have been members of this forum for years who were used to the way it was. I for one certainly can't blame those that come on here and say how I disappointed they are with the new look. In fact I agree with them. It stinks.

I totally disagree with you Mike.

People are entitled to say exactly what they think about the new forum. Not everybody can articulate WHY they don't like something. If they can, so much the better. But its extremely arrogant when you try to deny people the right to express their view just because they can't offer a "constructive" comment.

As to looks v functionallity........BOTH are important. There is no need to try to force people to choose one over the other.

Cheers

Don

Yr missing my point JonR.  
Saying something constructive & useful needs to indicate why it "looks bad"
Colour, design, font, header line - what  ???   
Don't tell me it about the way the various links & stuff works, that's functionality, not "looks".
If it stuff that's missing from the old forum like listing posts by name, that is features,  not "looks" 

Personally I don't mind the look, compared to Linn & others for example.
It is Naim's forum & they have the right to have it in Naim corporate colours & trademarks.
But I think they can do a lot better on some the features & functionality which I have suggested already & if not already done so by A.N.Other - but Naim do need to get it finished much quicker.

Don,  I agree BOTH are important, but I don't believe it arrogant to expect someone to try to string something like a few words together,  if they can take the time to say it looks bad why not add a few more clues - its like "I hate fish"
I am not denying any rights,  thats a bit OTT  

But enough,  this is going off subject.

OK, you're right, I should be more specific in my criticism of this new Naim forum.
I'm not a web-designer, but I consider this forum to have an awful design,
especially in terms of readability/clarity (?).

Each post/reply shifts between two shades of gray, which isn't nearly as clear as using drawn lines between boxes which most forums use. Add to this that when quoting another post (like I've done when replying to you) the quote becomes .... another gray box!

And the browser/screen width is not used properly, a lot of the right side screen is lost to the options (Add Reply, Watch Topic, Rate Topic, Tags, Share).

All this have probably already been said ad nauseum in this thread...

I value content over design, but the way this forum looks & works, I'm losing interest in the content, which is all-things-Naim.

I have a feeling that if the main text of each thread could be centralised within the page it would be much less stressful to read. I think even one of Hoop.la's own pages is centralised - with adverts running down both sides !! So it might not attract a premium rental

To me, this current layout using only the LHS of the screen is very trying. for some reason, I even think it would be better if they used the RHS rather than the LHS.

Of course, full width would be better, with clear demarcation between posts and far more contrast between quotes and new text - all as indicated above. Shame about the premium rental costs.

Cheers

Don