NDX into DAC V1

It'll sound different but not necessarily better. I'd add an XPS2 to the NDX or add the Naim DAC if you are looking for an upgrade. 

You meen, the NDac would be upgrading the NDX?

Yes. What system do you have ?

I have the NDX and have bought the DAC V1 for Computer audio because of its USB Port. But it sounds that good, that i had the idea it could better the SQ of my NDX. I know, a extra PSU for the NDX will upgrade it, but I don't have...

If your going to ndx into dac v1 you may as we'll sell the ndx and buy a Qute to feed dac v1

The NDX is 'better' than the Dac-V1. Which one you find more enjoyable is a different question.

The NDX is certainly more open, specially in the upper registers.

The Dac-V1 is a little warmer sounding - you'll have to add a PSU to the NDX to get that warmth.

MM - which would would you keep? NDX or V1

I'm not parting with the Dac-V1. ;-)

To this I must add the following - Naim's current range is excellent - and I would strive for system balance, first and foremost.

I currently recommend two systems:

a) Dac-V1/Nap 100.

b) NDX/SN2/HiLine. I would go so far as to say the Hi-Line is essential to smooth out some of the jagged edges. The HiCap-DR can come later.

The Dac-V1 sounds excellent as a source to the SN2 too.

The separates range is due for a refresh so I wouldn't buy separates new. I would go so far as to say that the SN2 does the HiFi stuff better than the 282/SCDR/250. At the same time, it is still very musical.

I suspect the jump from the current black range to the new range of separates will be the same kind of jump as from olives to the current range. There will be a lot of debate about naim having lost it's way bla bla bla - but it's all for the good.  

Speakers should be bought after the electronics. Going the other way around leads to trouble.

I think the SuperUniti is poor value. I haven't heard the new XS-2 or the Nait-si so can't comment.

Cayman, I'm late to the thread, however I say if you have a NDX you already have a very fine Network player source. 

If you want to improve its transparency and your enjoyment from it then I would look at the pre, poweramp and speakers.

The NDX into a 282/HiCapDR into a 200 or for more control, wight, authority and timbral transparency the 250.2 makes a superb and musical partnering amp.

The integrated amps are good, but you will ultimately get more mileage from the NDX using Naim seperates IMO, at the expense of space and funds, particularly with the 282 which is a cracking bit of kit for the money, which its later versions work really well with the NDX.

The NDX has quite a smooth output, and so as others have said there is an improvement to he had in using the Hiline, which opens and extends the NDX sound further.

Simon

Even if a man runs 20 miles with a bag over his head - he will, inevitably, arrive somewhere.

He would indeed. 

You would know, wouldn't you Adam 

I see nothing wrong at all with MM's post.

LOL

Tranks for all recommendations!

both are connected with jadis tube pre and amp. I love the advantges of the streamer (n Stream), but prefer the SQ of the DAC v1.

so i will have to upgrade the NDX ...with psu!

what about xps2? Seems to be a great Jump in SQ, doesn' it?

with regards!

At least you have the option to plumb a USB connection into the DAC-V1 - and it's not a bad-sounding DAC by any means (backhanded praise not intended)!

If the Uniti family (say, a SuperUniti 2) had a good USB dac input, it'd pretty much tick all the boxes.

Yes it does, XPS DR even further,... and you have the option of upgrading your pre\amps... to match your bare NDX  

Hi Dave, pleased to see you there.

what is funny though, is that Adam seems to be taking from personal experience 

 

 

Originally Posted by MangoMonkey:

What can I say ... Adam is funny. Even if it's at my expense, I find it hard to take offense....

 

+1:

The imagery itself is hilarious... :-)

I'll give the DAV 1 .....

and a little special one as well

It brings music alive from old recordings, new recordings, CD Redbook standard, DVD film sound-tracks, MP3, radio on AAC, and even youtube! [I have never heard it with Hires!]

It just gets on with extracting the music from the medium and sending it joyfully to the amp and speakers.

It's like a faithful dog, It only wants to please and be loved!

ATB from George

I am bit late on this thread.  Just wondering what you consider the specific advantage of streaming is ? (remote control? something else?)

Jude