NDX-DAC-SN connections

On the supernait there is din sockets available for each of the inputs.  If you are using the tuner input on the SN thats fine.

In terms of input, then I would suggest that the the remote function of the NDX is for its own inputs, someone correct me if I am wrong.

I am not convinced the SN could be controlled via a streamer, again someone please correct me if I am wrong.

So its possible you are adjusting the volume gain on the NDX and not on the SN which would have the effect of turning the volume down?

In short you would select the SN tuner input manually and select the UPNP input on the NDX is thats what you want outputting to the nait.

Hi, thanks for the reply.

I know that with the old Logitech system (Controller, Touch) I could adjust the volume remotely but that was merely changing the signal strength; the SN volume was unaltered.

With the NDX - DAC - SN the iPod/iPad volume control actually changes the SN's volume ... you can watch the volume knob turn as you increase/decrease volume.  Pressing mute on the remote brings the mute button on the SN, etc.

I know it's easy for me to merely select Tuner manually on the SN ... it's just that if I connect the DAC to the SN with the minijack cable I can change the input settings on the SN from the iPod ... but then I can't select any music to play because the NDX is no longer controllable.

I'd like to do both and I think I could if the DAC was connected to the SN via the Aux 1 socket rather than the Tuner socket.

Perhaps I shall try using RCA cables - in place of the DIN cable - to see if it works (though the gained advantage is minimal and I'd prefer to keep the recommended DIN for - supposedly - better sound reproduction).

Cheers,

Mitch

Surely your dealer should sort this out as the equipment is only a month old. Let them earn their commission. You should certainly aim to use the din connections if possible.

Hej,

you have to choose the input you want to use in the options of the ndx. I choose cd and all works fine. Choose Setup / System Automation / Streamer Audio / Input Used / Pre Tuner  Then all will be working as you want I think.

KR

Reinibert

Fingers crossed! 

Cheers!

That did it - many thanks.

I'd got my mind too confused with trying to control the inputs as described in the DAC manual rather than look at the NDX Automation settings.  I'm still not certain how I got it working but I went through the Automation menu and spotted what I needed to change so all okay now.

Onto the next topic: Servers and why they keep crashing ... but that's for another thread.

Thanks again,

Mitch.

Given they're based approx. 40 miles away I can't see them popping by to sort out such a matter ... and if I try to do something like this over the phone I won't have a clue.  Whereas an informed comment from one - or more - of our fellow users is (as in this case has been) far more helpful.  But thank you for the suggestion - I shall call upon them if other sources fail.

Mitch

Hi Mitch,

I'm curious as to why you did not buy the Superuniti instead of the 3 seperates as the Superuniti basically utilizes technology from your seperates??

I'm asking because I'm contemplating on buying a Superuniti to replace my computer based hifi (M-Dac>Nait XS2)

Hi,

I already owned the SuperNait (now nearly 5 years old) so I wasn't buying all three components.  I'm very happy with the SN sound and had no thought of down-grading ... I like the Classic range.

If I was starting out then yes, I probably would go for an all-in-one but I also love the Fraim with its black boxes.

Mitch

Hi Mitch, after thinking it through and some research it seems the SU can not match your system due to the compromises of a one-box-for-all approach and the quality of the components which do not match your system.

On a side note, I now seem more inclined to go for a ND5 XS which has a built in DAC, and better synergy with my Nait XS2, and according to many forum members should privide a better sound than the SU. I have no chance to demo so it is quite a difficult decision...

Hi Tariqv,

Back in 2004 I spent some time demo-listening to some ProAc speakers (a 5.1 AV set-up) ... I'm not sure what I was listening for as almost anything was going to sound better than my then existing mis-matched set-up.

A year later I was entertained by a hi-fi salesman demonstrating three CD players ... far more costly than my old one.  My daughter helped me choose one he didn't initially demonstrate ... the Naim CD5x (at nearly twice the price of those he had been demo-ing, incl the lovely CD5i).  I was hooked!

Various upgrades later I now find that CDs sound great (i still have the old CD5x + FC2x) ... but when I rip the CD (into M/S WMA lossless and convert it to FLAC - Foobar2000) and stream it through to my ND5x + DAC it no longer sounds great.

It sounds bloody marvellous!

Oh, and I haven't demo'd anything since that CD5x.

Mitch

But you have a DAC with the ND5 XS Which DAC is it by the way? How does it sound without the additional DAC?

My apologies, Tariqv, I should have re-read my previous post ...

Where I wrote ND5x I should have written NDX.

Yes, the NDX has a DAC and my actions/choices were questionable.  I had been thinking of buying the Naim DAC for some time as it is highly rated - this would have taken the digital out from my Squeezebox Touch (previously I used the SuperNait's own digital inputs/DAC).

But I also wanted to replace the SB Touch as I thought this was the weak link in the chain ... however I was put-off by the lack of android functionality which I found so user-friendly with the Logitech system.  And, to be honest, the sound I was getting was excellent.

So, a year ago I put off the decision; this year, I couldn't make up my mind whether or which of the NDX/DAC to buy ... so bought both (helped no end by the current UK financial climate: inflation continues to outstrip savings' rates, hence our savings are losing value).  There is another thread in which I pondered the question of what I should buy ... some responses suggested I was mad (as per my log-in name).

Anyhow: I installed the NDX first, a direct replacement for the SB Touch (digital out into the SuperNait).  First few pieces of music I wondered if I'd made a mistake ... by the following day I couldn't believe just how much better everything sounded.

NB: the functionality has, and continues to be, a problem but we're getting used to it (Logitech is far more user friendly).

After about a week I installed the DAC.  I cannot say that I have noticed a significant improvement and do wonder if I should remove the DAC from the set-up just to check whether its inclusion is beneficial.  But for what purpose?  If I find it provides no improvement do I sell it (and accept a loss)?  I do know that my music is sounding better than ever and I'm very happy with the set-up ... until the next urge to upgrade hits

Of course, this does mean that I have not tried the NDX's own DAC, always using its digital outs.

Mitch