The cost of a speaker enclosure from China
Posted by: Massimo Bertola on 14 February 2011
Yesterday, while visiting a small audio show in Padova, I had a talk with a guy who sells various brands. He showed me a small bookshelf loudspeaker by a know British brand, one with a crown in the logo, a very good speaker for 290€/pair.
At my wonder at such a good price, he explained to me that the wooden enclosure, delivered from China, costs 4 (four)€. I stopped wondering at the price, but did other considerations.
Unless the Chinese Government has found a way to keep the cost of living very low guaranteeing decent living conditions, thus allowing for low wages and low costs, I suspect that each time we buy a Chinese made/assembled product we support slavery. And I wonder what will happen the day that their internal market is able to spend more, prices rise and the rest of the world will be left to depend on itself for all things that today are imported form China.
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by Howlinhounddog
Today, China officially became the second largest economy in the World...
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by DavidDever
If the price was twice as expensive but the cabinets were made in Europe (significantly more than double the manufacturing price), would the speaker have been worth it?
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by Massimo Bertola
Well, what I can answer to this is: there are a number of bookshelf speakers around that cost more and are considered a bargain. The problem is, of course, that being made in >Europe< (where? Germany is Europe, Romania is Europe and I think manifacturing has different costs there) is so much more expensive than being made in China. I wasn't diving into a discussion over economics, for which I haven't the necessary culture; I observe that I normally buy products that are made in the UK and, for this, cost I believe considerably more than if they were made in China (at least, I hope that they're made in the UK). And if I loved Italian audio, I'd be happy to pay more and have things made eight miles from where I live, as would be the case, for instance, with Chario loudspeakers. In a way, I regret I don't like some italian products instead; but dream of a world where everything is done within miles, and cross-world exportations are a souvenir from an irrational epoch.
Max
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by Massimo Bertola
I mean, I understand importing a rug from the far East; but a coffee grinder... And even a wooden box: is it absolutely necessary? How many lives depend upon spending just €4 for a speaker enclosure?
You, who are in the trade: answer me, please.
M.
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by JamieWednesday
Ah. The perils of daytime drinking...
Posted on: 14 February 2011 by DavidDever
Originally Posted by maxbertola:
I mean, I understand importing a rug from the far East; but a coffee grinder... And even a wooden box: is it absolutely necessary? How many lives depend upon spending just €4 for a speaker enclosure?
You, who are in the trade: answer me, please.
M.
If the Chinese box
sounded better, would it matter? Who knows? If the price changes, the economy of the product changes and everything starts from scratch.
Europe is learning the same lesson we in America learned some time ago–if cost becomes your only object in manufacturing a product, you and your workforce will eventually lose to cheaper, less accoutred workforces based elsewhere.
As a parallel example–look at the case of the sunburst finishes on Fender Stratocaster guitars–a iconically American product no longer able to be finished in the States due to OSHA regulations, now off-shored to places where fumes and hazards are considered to be perks of employment....
Posted on: 15 February 2011 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by DavidDever:
As a parallel example–look at the case of the sunburst finishes on Fender Stratocaster guitars–a iconically American product no longer able to be finished in the States due to OSHA regulations, now off-shored to places where fumes and hazards are considered to be perks of employment....
oh dear, globalisation & global econonies, health & safefty, morality etc all rolled up.
If the sunburst finish is (genuinely) only achievable via a life-threatening health hazardous process, we shouldn't be expecting others to do it for us ie we shouldn't allow imports of such products. We should encourage others (eg China) to adopt similar limits to health and safety hazards, even for their own internally consumed products.
If exchange rates or labour costs mean its cheaper for an entreprenur to manufacture stuff thousands of miles from the end-user, then accept this is what will often happen - but don't confuse this with inferior quality. However, its what free markets and capitalism is all about. Most of the time, most of us are better off with such freedoms (at least IMHO). Its been like this since the days of the Luddites and before - it means that some of us, instead of digging potatoes are flying aeroplanes or manufacturing hifi etc.
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 11 March 2011 by cat345
We are free to buy what is offered on the market but buying is also a political action. If I would be aware that Naim equipment or part of it is made in China, I would probably look somewhere else. The equation is simple. If electronic components made in China can be of equal quality or superior to what is done in Europe or America but for less money, it means that it would be illusionary to continue to embolden the domestic HIFI brands.
Posted on: 11 March 2011 by Alamanka
Globalization is good, Monopolization is bad.
It is good to have a variety of countries, regions, companies competing across a variety of industries. In this case, prices tend to go down, quality goes up, value goes up. But if one country, one region, one company becomes too dominant in one industry, then major inconveniences appear because the power gets into the hands of the dominant actor and he is likely to abuse it.