Is my NDS faulty?

What is your UPnP server on the QNAP? (My guess is Twonky?)

That is the part that is making a mess of it.

Solution? Get a better one.

cheers

Aleg

Hi Mark

it won't be your NDS, it's the metadata and upnp server.

if I look in each folder for each album I have ripped, I will see the following:

01 track name 

02 track name

etc...

 Also, if I open the tracks in a metadata editor, I use Mac so can't comment on PC software.

i will see the track number field populated with

1/12

2/12

3/12

etc...

this makes sure all tracks run in the correct sequence. 

Hope the above makes sense. Please check one of your albums as an example and make sure it looks like the above. Refresh Nstream and then play the album. 

Hope you work it out.

PS, I think you are a customer of Moorgate Acustics? 

I am also.

regards, Anton

Thank You Aleg.

I am a real novice to streaming so appreciate your help. I do use Twonky on my QNAP.

How would I change from Twonky and would it affect my music on the QNAP?

Thanks again

Mark C

Ah, welcome to the joys of streaming with classical music. 

I totally agree its the metadata not your NDS. There are a few things at work here:

- how they were ripped - check the settings in your ripper for how it deals with compilations, which most classical music albums appear to a ripper (various artists, composers, etc. on the same CD.)

- how your UPNP server orders tracks. There might be an option for track order, vs alphabetical.

What ripper did you use?

The things I find mess up classic music play are:

- 2 CD sets. You can get track 1 of CD 1 then track 1 of CD 2.

-  movement numbers within the track names themselves. "1 - allegro - Symphony 3" then "1 - andante - Symphony 5" if your UPNP server is going from alphabetical order

- albums getting split by artist on CDs where its one performer/orchestra playing music by 2 composers.  Check the "album artist" tag in the metadata.

Thank You Anton,

it appears that Twonky has put my symphonies in alphabetical order so plays incorrectly. I dont know how to alter this on the Twonky. (1/12

2/12 etc makes really good sense but I can only manipulate and alter in windows but my NDS plays from the QNAP / Twonky.)

Would it be a massive job to change from Twonky to something else bearing in mind that I have about 6000 CDs on my QNAP and I am not too brilliant with PC software?

I also shop in Moorgate - it is good to talk to you and thank you for your valued help.

Mark C

Hi Mark

using 01, 02, 03, etc... As a prefix for the track name ripped to the album folder will resolve the alphabet order issue.

try this manually on one of the albums with the issue and see if this corrects the problem.

regarding changing your upnp server, you would not have to re-rip all 6000 albums again. My, you have been busy! whatever you install, it will read the meta data already stored on your rips. The key here is how were they ripped and with what information? 

Fortunately, i learned very fast that metadata is king. Lots of useful information on this forum.

hopefully you dont have this issue with all 6000 albums 

Try the above manual workaround too see if it works.

let me know how you get on.

ATB, Anton 

Mark

Read this

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...41#34230453126405541

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...94#33808174398863994

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...twonky-help-required

Thank You Aleg - very helpful.

I have just re ripped a CD that was a problem numbering 01 - 04 (tracks) in metadata and it worked excellent.

Unfortunately I have now noticed most of my ripped Classical CDs are in the wrong order.

I am beginning to regret this streaming honestly and I would not buy one if I had my time again!!

Thank you for all your help.

Mark C

Teething troubles Mark. Once you've sorted it nice you'll be away.

This forum is very good and has guided me through some sticky moments. You're not alone.

Mark

What is the format you used To rip your music?

If it is flac you can use mp3tag, a free program, that will help you rename filenames based on the tags in the file.

so you could say: rename the files as "tracknumber" - "title" and it will do it all in one go, just as long as you have the two tags in the file and as long as it is flac, alac, and some other formats and not wav.

Don't despair, a lot of tools are available out there as many people have come across the same problems as you have.

cheers

aleg

Hi Mark

as Aleg's comments above.

it can be frustrating and I'm with you but once it's sorted that's it!

im listening to my system now and it touches the soul!

can only imagine what your NDS sounds like.

streaming definitely the way forward and with your source it must be a dream.

chin up and modify a few albums at a time.

maybe Aleg can help with a batch process to rename as required. You can also test the process on 1 album until you get the desired end result. Once there, you can do the lot! 

Please keep us posted.

Anton

Hi as others have said, you need to set the track number in the metadata. I do recommend those new to streaming, to rip a dozen CDs etc, check all is ok and appears correctly. Once happy then blitz the rest of your collection.

Simon

There is a free test version of Asset upnp for Qnap, maybe this is better/ different than Twonky and it solves  your problems whitout having to retag or rerip your cd collection. 

As long as your ripper inserted the sequence Tag in the metadata you are fine with other UPnP/DLNA servers. if not you will need to manually write the sequence value in with a metadata editor or rerip, clearly the former is easier.

Simon

Dear All - a massive THANK YOU for your help.

I will try the MP3TAG, and / or possibly Asset if it is not too difficult to set up?

I use DBpoweramp to rip to FLAC.

A Massive thank you again.

Mark